Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
trouble with alsa -- no device, no driver
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

 
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Kernel & Hardware
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
n3xis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 6
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: trouble with alsa -- no device, no driver Reply with quote

System:
Dell Optiplex gx1 pentium3 500
gentoo2.6.7-r11
ati rage pro agp 2x onboard video
** crystal semiconductor cs4236 onboard sound
---------------------------------------------------------------

sdr4wkc4b / # lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)

above is the current lspci, have tried a few of the drivers within the kernel configuration, none which have worked, have not tried downloading drivers for the "card", can anyone make any suggestions about what can be done/tried to get the sound working on this machine.. thanks for the help
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Archangel1
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Posts: 1212
Location: Work

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit weird if that's the entire lspci. Mine's got about 16 items on it - including 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller....
There doesn't seem to be anything in your lspci that looks anything like a sound card. The only thing I can think of is that maybe you've deselected some option in the kernel configuration that it needs - maybe it needs ISA or something?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tmesis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have exactly the same Optiplex, and the same problem with 2.6.8-rc2-love3 kernel.
First of all, the sound card seems to be ISA. I cannot see it with lspci, but it is there in

Code:
dmesg | grep isapnp


Second, it used to work fine in kernel 2.6.4, but starting around 2.6.7 it broke. Now whenever I try insmod or modprobe snd-cs4236, I just get a segmentation fault.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gentree
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Posts: 5350
Location: France, Old Europe

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still rate 2.6.6-love4 as the best love kernel.
_________________
Linux, because I'd rather own a free OS than steal one that's not worth paying for.
Gentoo because I'm a masochist
AthlonXP-M on A7N8X. Portage ~x86


Last edited by Gentree on Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:53 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Archangel1
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Posts: 1212
Location: Work

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using 2.6.7-lovesomething. It's had a couple of weird issues with my sound card driver, but my lspci's always been okay.
I tried 2.6.8, it b0rked completely on my system - constant kernel panics and the like, and vesafb-tng didn't like something either...
I'll wait for 2.6.9 I think.

Just to check, you two have enabled ISA in your kernel config? I don't have a machine handy to have a look for other options on - just had to reboot into Windows for work :-(
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
n3xis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 6
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i know its an ISA device, do you guys know of a driver to download and install that will make it work properly? or is that out of the question, another question is if it could be something that is disabled in the bios, thanks for the help..

note, im using the gentoo-dev-sources.. would switching to the love sources help this issue at all?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Archangel1
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Posts: 1212
Location: Work

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't need to download a driver, just enable it in the kernel. ISA support is under Bus Options.
I've got PCI support, legacy /proc/pci and PCI device name database enabled, but not ISA.
It seems a little odd that 1f.0 in my lspci is an ISA bridge, and my sound card's 1f.5 - which implies it's using that bridge somehow, but I don't have any drivers loaded. This is getting out of my depth I think :-D

I don't think love-sources would make much difference - they have a bunch of patches, but I don't remember seeing ISA in there (someone correct me if I'm wrong!). They're geared for speed more than loading additional drivers.

I'd suggest making sure ISA support is enabled & recompiling your kernel if not. Otherwise it could be one of those hardware weirdnesses that plague us from time to time...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gentree
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Posts: 5350
Location: France, Old Europe

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant advise you on your Dell hardware but if one of the above posts says he has the same and it works on love 2.6.6-love4 then that's probably worth a go. There may be some issues on the very recent kernels that have not been resolved.

I know there are several people using love-sources that are still on 2.6.6-love4 . You should be able to find a link if you search , I know a couple of people have copied it elsewhere so that it is still available.

The patch set came out in about March or April so it is still pretty hot. The more recent ones are definately cutting edge test stuff so expect a few probs.

2.6.6-love4 was the last release by steel300 , the team that is forming to carry on this patch set has yet to mature into a team producing a similar quality. Follow the threads , I live in hope.

That may be why the other post says things started to go wrong at 2.6.7


Anyway try 2.6.6-love4 is a very solid , well tested kernel . I suggest you try it.


Code:

0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)



That's my pci soundblaster showing up in lspci


HTH 8)
_________________
Linux, because I'd rather own a free OS than steal one that's not worth paying for.
Gentoo because I'm a masochist
AthlonXP-M on A7N8X. Portage ~x86
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tmesis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentree wrote:
Anyway try 2.6.6-love4 is a very solid, well tested kernel. I suggest you try it.


I installed 2.6.6-love4 on my Dell Optiplex. Sound works fine again. Thanks for suggestion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tmesis
n00b
n00b


Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tmesis wrote:
I installed 2.6.6-love4 on my Dell Optiplex. Sound works fine again. Thanks for suggestion.


Hmm, 2.6.8-rc3-nitro1 works fine as well. So it seems to be really a problem with recent love sources.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mahir
l33t
l33t


Joined: 05 Dec 2003
Posts: 725
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tmesis wrote:
I have exactly the same Optiplex, and the same problem with 2.6.8-rc2-love3 kernel.
First of all, the sound card seems to be ISA. I cannot see it with lspci, but it is there in

Code:
dmesg | grep isapnp


Second, it used to work fine in kernel 2.6.4, but starting around 2.6.7 it broke. Now whenever I try insmod or modprobe snd-cs4236, I just get a segmentation fault.



i dont even see anything there!
maybe i should compile isa pnp into the kernel?
_________________
"wa ma tawfiqi illah billah"
Mahir Sayar
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mahir
l33t
l33t


Joined: 05 Dec 2003
Posts: 725
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:42 pm    Post subject: hey Reply with quote

WHAT I DID TO MAKE T HIS WORK WAS
ENABLE ISA PNO WITH PCI PNP in the kernel
and enable tthe soundcore and alsa all as modules
then ran alsaconf

it made it work all on its own.

yay! :)
_________________
"wa ma tawfiqi illah billah"
Mahir Sayar
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Kernel & Hardware All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum