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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: XMMS alternatives? Reply with quote

I'm getting tired of XMMS and it's to the point that I either need to find another or I need to throw myself at the mercy of their mailing list to vent about the "bugs" I've found that are just plain annoying. (Oh wait, I did that and never got any replies... right.)

I actually don't have any problems with its sound output. My problems are different: still uses GTK 1, hardly supports ID3v2 MP3 tags, misses a lot of intuitive features on its own, the plugins that make up for that lack are not the best written, getting answers to any questions (plugin or otherwise) is quite a pain--despite the presence of a forum and a mailing list, etc....

So what are your alternatives? I'm looking for something that can play many file types (video too?), play them well, and that has a convenient not-KDE interface. (I'd prefer something not tied to Gnome either, but I'll take that if necessary.) Any tips would sure be appreciated!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squall14716 wrote:
BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2.

and it's in portage
Code:
emerge beep-media-player
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, it's emerging right now so I can try it out!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though not totally like XMMS, I like rhythmbox.

Its like iTunes, if you've ever used it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you'd really like to have it not tied to a specific Desktop Environment, I'd reccoment a curses-based frontend to music playing. I use MPC or cplay, depending on what mood I'm in.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:P
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psyqil wrote:
:P
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Oh man. Foobar2000 is the greatest music player ever coded. A bit shabby looking, but under the hood it's a fscking monster.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newbie_100 wrote:
squall14716 wrote:
BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2.

and it's in portage
Code:
emerge beep-media-player


Many bugs have been fixed (and a lot of other improvements made) since 0.9.6 was released. The latest code from cvs is a lot more stable than what's in portage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k. To get Music Player Deamon and Gnome Music Player Client do the following....

Add these to /etc/portage/package.keywords
Code:

media-sound/gmpc ~x86
media-sound/mpd ~x86


Then emerge mpd and gmpc.

Make sure you read the man to MPD.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like using amaroK, which is also in portage. The only (almost fatal) downside is that it uses arts for output, which is quite nasty...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like using Beep Media Player (the magical CVS version) because it looks better than XMMS since it's GTK2 and is lite. Good stuff. :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beep media player closed when i went to add a directory to playlist odd :S. mpd is nice though for a xmms alternative.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love me some JuK.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpg123 is very good. There's also a mp3 plugin for mplayer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zez wrote:
I like using amaroK, which is also in portage. The only (almost fatal) downside is that it uses arts for output, which is quite nasty...


It supports gstreamer too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greven wrote:
Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k.

:? I don't know what foobie was like in v0.11, but mpd will still need some work...no APEv2, no mpc and I saw that you took care of getting somebody to implement replaygain, but only for oggs...guess I'll have to wait, but I like the client/server approach!
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Make sure you read the man to MPD.
Oops, I completely overread that sentence and recompiled it without droproot because it complained about this and that :D But thank you for the recommendation, I'll keep an eye on it!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhythmbox...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm planning on making a Replaygain program with a gui but my C++ programming skills are lacking. But, thats why I have college and friends.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like beep media player as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll put in another vote for MPD. Wonderful as long as you only use MP3/OGG/FLAC/AAC. Since my music collection is entirely MP3, OGG, and a few FLACs, it's perfect for me :)

You can grab my ebuild for kmp (a nice MPD client for KDE/Qt) here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55499
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greven wrote:
Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k.


Replaygain? Mass tagging? Highly extensible plugin interface with amounts of plugins probably only second to Winamp and XMMS? Configurable playlist formatting?

MPD has none of these (and I would be wary of adding these types of features to a server/client model player, honestly), and its functionality is, IMO, what makes foobar2000 foobar2000, rather than its apparent general default look.

I could see MPD's use if I had a standalone media center running on my amp (which, if I ever had the time or the energy for it, would be really spiffy to implement), but on a desktop system with no real interoptability within my different systems.. it just seems a bit excessive.

As far as the topic at hand goes, amaroK is easily my favorite player at the moment, although I rarely ever use it since I can't really get used to KDE. I normally use Rhythmbox for my casual listening sessions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for cplay & mpg123
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love JuK, but I don't think it can play Internet Radio Streams. :(
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of problems with BMP that will make it do funny things, however, it has never crashed on me while adding a directory of files to a playlist. Did you make sure to use the CVS version? :D
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