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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dkostic wrote:
My .mp3's are all stored in the format...

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Artist name\ -\ Album Title\ -\ Track number\ -\ Song title


...so that they're sorted in an easy-to-search order. I would *love* to find an .mp3 player that just listed the files in that order. I've tried beep, xmms, rhythmbox, and audacious and they all have some weird (and similar, across the four of them) way of formatting the file names so that the playlist looks messed up. Sometimes the track numbers don't show up, sometimes strange characters appear, sometimes songs get printed in all caps, and they get put in the playlist editor all out of order. It's annoying :evil: . Anybody know of a player that *doesn't* do this?

Amarok. While it uses tags in its collection, you can use the Files tab to select tracks the way you prefer.

I think it would also help to properly tag your collection, for example with EasyTag.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd, with whatever frontend is hip at the moment. Usually my fvwm script calling mpc.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd with ncmpc, and sometimes xmms... I didn't now that bmp had been a new project (except for bmpx of course). I should take a closer look at Audacious.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Amarok, but only since the last version is useful. before it, i use xmms.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tryng listen for gnome... i think it's the best substitute for amarok...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amarok all the way!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amarok is a _one_big_mess_ and CPU and memory hog IMHO, sorry. Tried a few times, since 1.1 version, but newer has been playing my music the way I want: sometimes sound is jerky, sometimes a kind of memory leaks or just a crash/stop responding... back to mpd :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dkostic wrote:
I still use beep-media-player but I absolutely hate it. My .mp3's are all stored in the format...

Code:
Artist name\ -\ Album Title\ -\ Track number\ -\ Song title


...so that they're sorted in an easy-to-search order. I would *love* to find an .mp3 player that just listed the files in that order. I've tried beep, xmms, rhythmbox, and audacious and they all have some weird (and similar, across the four of them) way of formatting the file names so that the playlist looks messed up. Sometimes the track numbers don't show up, sometimes strange characters appear, sometimes songs get printed in all caps, and they get put in the playlist editor all out of order. It's annoying :evil: . Anybody know of a player that *doesn't* do this?

I think you are suffering from id3 tags. They are a widespread ill, but can be remedied quite simply. I recommend the use of easytag, which lets you modify the file name according to information in the tags, before stripping the little bastards from your files.
I always remove all id3 tags, and store the files in a similar filename format. Now, when there's no id3 tag, the player has no choice but display the file name, which is the look you're going for as far as I understand. The only problem this poses is that such a filename is too long to display in the playlist window of xmms or audacious.
Since you can't scroll horizontally in these programs, this can be an annoyance. Otherwise, down with id3 tags!

Some facts about id3 tags:
- id3 tags don't contain character encoding info, and so are an enemy of i18n
- id3 tags have been used on several occasions by RIAA to track and persecute music downloaders
- id3 tags contain fields like "genre" that really don't make any sense
- id3 tags are a legacy from old win32, where filenames were limited to 8 characters.
- id3 tags are the cause of strange strings appearing in players instead of the file name

I say, down with them!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amarok is wonderland
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running amarok, works fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merged a two-pages thread from Multimedia to this one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Amarok it is. Try it out if you havent. Its full of great features, but quite heavy if you have got a old computer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had an issue with amarok
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audacious or Xmms2.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simius wrote:

Some facts about id3 tags:
- id3 tags don't contain character encoding info, and so are an enemy of i18n

id3v1 don't but id3v2 has been around for some time now, and ogg vorbis use utf8
Simius wrote:

- id3 tags have been used on several occasions by RIAA to track and persecute music downloaders

then share a whole album in a zip/rar file
Simius wrote:

- id3 tags contain fields like "genre" that really don't make any sense

use a better software, my favorite, gmusicbrowser supports any number of arbitrary genres for each file :)
Simius wrote:

- id3 tags are a legacy from old win32, where filenames were limited to 8 characters.

of course not, windows95, which supported long filenames, is much older than the wide use of mp3. And tags are much more powerful than filenames to store various info.
Simius wrote:

- id3 tags are the cause of strange strings appearing in players instead of the file name

tags wrote or read by stupid software


fact about filenames : you can't put some characters in it (like '/','?' ...)

tags are your friends, although I've got to admit id3v1 and id3v2 formats are good example of how NOT to design tags :evil:
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