Stage 4 - preconfigured Gentoo with X, KDE and Firefox?

Maxipes

Hi all,
I like gentoo for portage, it contains everything and is easy to use. But I don't like Gentoo installation and configuration (I simply don't have time for that). So it would be wery great if someone will provide Gentoo stage4. With this:
* Modular kernel based on genkernel with udev and coldplug
* Xorg
* KDE (please no flame)
* Mplayer with gui
* Firefox with flash and mplayer plugin
* DHCP autoconfiguration
* X autoconfiguration from knoppix (it's easy, I can post HOWTO)
* O2 opt for x86, everyone who want can recompile it.
Compressed it should take about 300 MB. I can help you with some thinks and I have FTP space for that. I think it's much more usefull than livecds or etc...

So is anyone interested?

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allucid · Veteran Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1314 Location: atlanta

http://desktop.vidalinux.com/ might be of interest to you. It uses gnome instead of kde though.

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masonm · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a pretty good description of VidaLinux to me.
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HydroSan · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

emerge kde mplayer firefox netscape-flash

Or if you use GNOME:

emerge gnome firefox netscape-flash

As GNOME 2.10 now has Totem which is an AWESOME video player.
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electrofreak · l33t Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 713 Location: Ohio, USA

um... no. You can make you're own stage 4 if you want though.
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Poe · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

aldube · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject:

Why bother with a stage 4? Just compile everything you want then use Partimage to backup your ¨/¨ partition; it´s always easier to restore than reinstall when you already have everything properly setup the way you want it. Copying the files that you create or edit with nano (in the Gentoo Handook) to floppy also helps in cutting down reinstall time, as you can just copy and edit those files as necessary next time you install.

ciaranm · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject:

We were kinda considering doing this as a replacement for GRP, actually...

skiman1979 · n00b Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 37 Location: PA, USA

I've been wondering about how to go about a "stage 4" install myself. I noticed a suggestion from one of the above posters to use partimage to backup the / partition. I also remember someone in a chat a while back saying she used tar to compress the entire / partition to another drive (or a CD) and then when she needs to restore, just extract the tarball to /

Is the partimage method more reliable for this? I don't remember the exact flags, but I know she used some flags to preserve timestamps, file permissions, ownership, and the like.
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Maxipes · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: Noone?

It looks like nobody want it

Ok, forget for that

skiman1979 · n00b Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 37 Location: PA, USA

If you're interested in installing Gentoo without having to do the manual console-based line-by-line install process, perhaps VidaLinux would work for you. I haven't tried it myself, but from what I understand, it gives you a Gentoo installation using a graphical installer. Someone may have already suggested this above.
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aldube · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:

I guess my backups have been serving as Stage 4 installs; basicly it´s a completed Stage 3 (no extras like WM) with Linux Kernel optimized to run on any Athlon XP computer; it saved me a lot of Stage 3 reinstalls; it´s been nice to just simply restore and start over if I didn´t like installing big stuff like KDE and Gnome.

Unfortunately I´d have to create a Stage 4 restore CD for Celeron labtop (Pentium4), another for my brother´s Athlon Thunderbird, and another for my old AMD K6-2 collecting dust from starting Stage 1; I suppose I could make a generic i686 and i585 Stage 4 restore CD; however, it would be more like using every other Linux distro out there.

Having a Stage 4 CD install would be great for speeding things along with fewer errors; however, the amount server space and bandwith needed would be insane for all the different CPUs out there; this could make a good sale item in the Gentoo Store though.

I think I´ll make a Stage 4 install for my AMD K6-2 on my Athlon XP so my K6-2 doesn´t spend a week or two compiling; where would Linux be without good ole TAR.

Shadow Skill · Veteran Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1023

Why is it that when someone is talking about opening up Gentoo for those that do not have the time to wait to install things someone always says "Well you could just compile.." are you all brain dead the whole point was to save time, how does compiling on a p200 save time eh? I don't see a point in the stage 4 though unless it would be even better than the grp, this still doesn't help Laptops though, I wouldn't want to shorten the life of my laptop by having to go through a two day+ install, then deal with routine four hour emerges that put the cpu usage to max every time, thats what Binaries are for but who needs those since you clearly can't understand the premise of the thread.

What I think would be nicer is a real Gentoo Live cd not unlike Knoppix that people could try out and then if they decide to install it choose a stage or use the grp.
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Gentree · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject:

The real balls-ache time-waster for me is having to configure and debug every damn thing on the system.

A nice annaconda/Knoppix type autodetect would save _everyone_ using Gentoo a whole heap of wheel reinventing

I remember when I first install Gentoo spending literally days pouring over docs, forum posts, wikis, guides and still not managing to get the danm x-server to start.

Then I tried to use an ATI card and spend even more time pulling my hair out.

I dont know of any other distro that still expects us to deal with that kind madness.

And to preempt a flood of "yes buts" , yeah we would have to install some packages before running it depending on what we want or need. But when I put in a knoppix disk and see it do straight to a configured GUI I dont see why Gentoo could not do something similar without loosing the build from source system.

If I've emerge gnome/kde it uses it , if not a basic FVWM .

I think it would save us all lots of time and make Gentoo more use to the world.

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Shadow Skill · Veteran Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1023

nighty

Shadow Skill · Veteran Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1023

Oh dude Emerde looks like it might be something I could get to work on Fedora, this might be the best of both worlds solution I have been looking for I just wish school wasn't starting next week as I would have more time to hack and test out if I could make it work with FC. Thanks for the link.
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kim_asplund · Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject:

You have probibly seen this topic already...
Anyway...
Nice script if you have an installed system to make a stage4 of it...

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-312817-highlight-image.html

Regards
Kim