Installing Gentoo - The Developers Method - Stage1 and NPTL

ali3nx · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:18 am Post subject:

ok folks... theres something very not cosher... i used JUST the portage defaults, fresh stage, emerge patch && emerge -C linux-headers && emerge linux26-headers

then fire up bootstrap-cascade.sh

The bootstrap makes it thru gcc and glibc

but fails on ncurses. Tre annoying? just a little. but someone's gotta break it first

Here's the error i get from ncurses

ali3nx · Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:17 am Post subject:

Ok after some more bootstrap research and help from rac i may have a solution to the bootstrap failures... i'll post an update shortly
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Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215

bootstrap-cascade.sh has never failed for me and I decided to give a try (spare partition, for testing purposes

) It failed on ncurses...I'm bootstrapping now with linux26-headers that are emerged with USE="-* build bootstrap", I'll post results soon...

EDIT: It failed

I saw somewhere in the forums that running "gcc-config <CHOST>-3.4.2" could help...So I did "gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.2" and started bootstrapping again...Let's hope the best

...Allright, it passed!

zehnan1 · Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject:

Hi everybody!

I also tried with gcc3.4 after ncurses error. Only I didnt bootstrap again. I reemerged ncurses - it passed. I hope nothing is missing because of that.

regards,
Marko

Phlogiston · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject:

I'd like to install gentoo with your tutorial. But the elitminds.com links to the config files don't work. Could you help me?
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Varuna · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject:

Oktane's strategy worked for me, too: I put a gcc-config line switching to 3.4.2 in bootstrap-cascade.sh, right after it emerges gcc, and the bootstrap succeeded where it had failed to find c++.

Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215

There's better method than that...BEFORE bootstrapping do "emerge --oneshot --nodeps gcc && gcc-config 2 && source /etc/profile"

Then you can bootstrap and it passes

With this method, you don't have to bootstrap twice, just emerge GCC twice

hielvc · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:22 am Post subject:

Well they are trying to fix it, but the fix is only halfway there and borks. It tries to set up gcc-3.4.2 its not quit there yet as it only does gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu- If your wondering it leaves off the version #. As mentioned above you can either emerge gcc first or put this into bootstrap-cascade.sh <youll find it at end of the script>
"gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.2 && source /etc/profile".

feld · Guru Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: WI, USA

after borking my system looking for a good install guide, i decided to take a chance and use your guide. i followed everything in your first post to a T, and later while installing i read through some of the other posts seeing how your guide has developed. without anything but what was in your first post, my system has bootstrapped and emerged system and all the other goodies properly. i had no errors or stop except once when i had to download manually the java documentation, which i just skipped and continued from where it was at.

currently i am installing xorg and kde after my reboot.

the only probs i had was that the eliteitminds.com site is down, but that was no big deal because i just did those parts myself.

CFLAGS were -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer

athlon xp 3000+ here

all i have to say is GREAT work. this is gonna be one nasty beast once its all done.

i dont know what problems you guys had happening, but i had none here obviously

the only question i have, is after reading the last posts here, is that i wanna know if by following your instructions, did i truly achieve what this guide was going for, or not? the last few posts seem to say otherwise, at least that is how i am reading into it.

-Feld

ali3nx · Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject:

ali3nx · Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject:

ali3nx · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject:

here's a new oneliner for everyone wishing to try out the new cascading profiles and the suggested method Oktane has for ensuring gcc will switch profiles before bootstrap =] Appreciate the assistance Oktane

Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215

I messed around with my test-partition and found that new glibc has two nptl related USE-flags... (nptl and nptlonly)

I compiled glibc with USE="ntpl" and then did /lib/libc.so.6, it outputs linuxthreads instead of NPTL. Then I recompiled it with USE="nptl nptlonly" and /lib/libc.so.6 outputs NPTL.

Everything I know, if you don't specify USE="nptlonly" it uses linuxthreads as a fallback (someone told me that on #gentoo @ freenode)

Anyway, if you want to build fully NPTL fueled system, you need to emerge glibc with USE="nptl nptlonly"

Just my 2 cents

Digital Storm · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:03 am Post subject:

Hopefully I'm correct..

Compiling glibc with the use flags of "nptl" and "nptlonly" will compile in nptl support and only nptl support which means glibc won't be compiled twice (once for nptl and again for original linux headers).

ali3nx · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:04 am Post subject:

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ali3nx · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:49 am Post subject:

added cascading profiles, gensplash, grub skinning, cleaned up grub install section, added oktane p0wa to the oneliner

Nitey nite folks More soon.
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Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215

Oh yeah, the sweetest tutorial on the planet!

I'll have to try out that GRUB skin, but I don't start playing with gensplash

I've never used framebuffer and actually vesafb-tng is b0rked in nitro-sources :lol:

woZa · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:02 am Post subject:

Thanks to ali3nx. Just emerged gcc twice and it worked fine. Did this on software raid0 and things are rocking along nicely.

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robet · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject:

Any word on the workability of this with AMD64? It would be awfully nice to have nptl, udev and 64 bit Gentoo

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canadian_psyko · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:

I just finished the install.

I don't know yet if it worked, I did the entire thing through ssh/screen about a 20 min drive from my house.

There were a couple issues with the one-liner though.

emerge patch (errored for some reason, took it out)
gcc-config 2 (not valid syntax apparently, took it out)
emerge reiser4progs (could find files)
some of the rc-updates (grub, syslog-ng, xinetd, hotplug didnt work, had to emerge them)

Other than that, it's good

Hopeully it's running when I get home.

Not bad (IMO) for basicly a newb.

Now to decide what else I want/need

Cam
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ali3nx · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:

gcc-config 2 should switch the chroot's running/operational gcc to the gcc that was compiled... if there's a problem with it switching perhaps something changed in the last couple days yet again...
The developers love to keep me on my toes :lol:

as you can see in the code section below the numbers relate to the versions of gcc that are in use or available in the system. I no longer use the stage installed version of gcc which cannot compile c++ or any version previous to 3.4.2 so my version i wish to use would be #1
The stages are different as the version thats installed would be number 1 and would be possibly labelled i386-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4 which is compiled to run on anything. Once gcc-config 2 executes in the oneliner that version would be rendered dormant and the new version would be used. The asterisk designates the in use version currently selected as non-dormant in your system. If your getting an error when it executes i'm certainly curious why. It could be that the dev's may have changed or updated something. Any information regarding your gcc-config -l output and emerge info on the system would be unseful. It would also be a good idea to ensure you chrooted correctly and that proc was properly mounted into the chroot that your installing into.

hielvc · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject:

I just had to rebuild my system again. The bootstrap-cascade.sh bootstraps but does it with gcc-3.3.3.

Deranger · Veteran Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1215