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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:25 pm    Post subject: www.gentoo.org doesn't display correctly in galeon Reply with quote

Has anyone else noticed that the gentoo web pages don't display correctly in galeon? Sometimes they display ok, and sometimes they appear all garbled. Then if I reload the page, sometimes it clears up. It usually shows up as random characters in mixed bold and italic and some of it with strikeouts. It's very weird.

Here's a copy of www.gentoo.org/doc/build.html that shows this:

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Anyone know what's going on?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using Galeon since April or so. Don't think I've ever noticed this. Currently using Galeon 1.2.5-r1
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen this fairly consistently with Mozilla 1.0 and 1.1 under Gentoo. It happens to me often enough that I tend to use links to read the gentoo.org docs.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen this happen, always used Mozilla, currently using 1.1
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing that might be relevant is that I'm using a junkbuster proxy. I'll try putting gentoo.org in the "no proxy" override section and see if that improves matters.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

never saw that from mozilla 0.9.9 to mozilla 1.2a ...
you might want to check your charset settings.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dioxmat wrote:
you might want to check your charset settings.

If it was a charset problem, wouldn't it be consistent? It's not consistent for me, at least. It's almost as if gentoo.org was using gzip compression and up until a certain part of the page comes in fine, and then the rest doesn't get unzipped. The point in the page where it starts to display bizarre characters is not reproducible.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, true. www.gentoo.org does uses gzip compression, so that might be it. maybe one should test with different HTTP networking options (mozilla allows sites, dunno for galeon...)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..... I get this in links - I have to use lynx to view the docs. :(
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ah, true. www.gentoo.org does uses gzip compression, so that might be it. maybe one should test with different HTTP networking options (mozilla allows sites, dunno for galeon...)


The junk I see on my screen really looks like gzipped contents. Can someone explain to my how and why the site uses gzip compression?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The junk I see on my screen really looks like gzipped contents. Can someone explain to my how and why the site uses gzip compression?

gzip compression is a feature of http 1.1, it's used on a lot of sites and can make a huge difference in bandwidth the site uses.

In Mozilla try using http 1.0 and see if that fixes it.
Edit->Prefereces->Advanced->HTTP Networking
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something to try:

Code:
$ telnet www.gentoo.org 80
Trying 64.57.168.198...
Connected to www.gentoo.org.
Escape character is '^]'.


Now enter the following:

Code:
GET / HTTP/1.0
Host: www.gentoo.org   (press enter twice)


Did it come up with a gzipped compressed page?

If for some reason you don't see the contents, you may be behind some sort of cache which sends you the gzipped content, even though your browser hasn't even asked for it. The ISP I'm on (blueyonder) uses transparent caches which will happily cache the gzipped content, then send it to browsers not wanted gzipped content later on. HTTP headers show:

Code:
Via: 1.1 cache-wit (NetCache NetApp/5.1R2D14)


Obviously a transparent cache which doesn't check gzipped pages.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turning off keepalive fixes this for me.
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