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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:38 pm    Post subject: mandrake 9.0 beat gentoo 1.4 Reply with quote

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http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0PR.php3

mandrake 9.0 beat the 1.4 release.

that's okay though. 1.4 will actually be well tested and ready when it's released (i hope at least.)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah well.. MDK 9.0 still uses GCC3.1

Most of us Gentoo'ers, like me, are already using GCC3.2 ...

But it's good for Mandrake, I bet it's a nice release for those who would like to run a distro like that.

Nevertheless I'll pass and stick to Gentoo ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um of the site

* New DrakConf
* Many new & improved configuration utilities
* XFree86 4.2.1
* KDE 3.0.2
* GNOME 2.0
* Mozilla 1.1
* Apache 1.3.26 & Apache 2.0.40
* Evolution 1.0.8
* Galeon 1.2.5
* OpenOffice.org 1.0.1
* KOffice 1.2
* Shorewall firewall utility
* GCC 3.2
* And lots more waiting to be discovered

but I agree I dont think a change in gcc version is a reason to switch back to mandrake.....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize there was a race.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kanuslupus wrote:
I didn't realize there was a race.


Release in haste, repent at leisure. :-P

( Hello GCC 3! )

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm

What features are present in Mandrake 9.0 that are missing in gentoo 1.4?
I think gentoo 1.4 uses KDE 3.03 for instance.
I dont get the point.
Maybe Mandrake is more comfortable (Drak Conf, ...)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, isn't KDE 3.0.2 the one with the man-in-the-middle vulnerability in Konq? Too bad about that. Also, I still don't see portage in that list of features. Yeah, I don't see myself installing that bloated, rpm based distro any time soon. Kinda odd that none of the source based distros (they benefit the most) ended up being the first with gcc 3.2 in a final release.

Edit: Oh, and their solution to the plugin/java/gcc 3.2 Mozilla problem was to compile Mozilla with gcc 2.9x. Not my favorite solution.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come over from Mandrake to Gentoo and still have a lot of time for Mandrake. The Gentoo system may be more 'pure', but Mandrake do a lot of work setting up things nicely, and I'd say it's good for a lot of users. (If it wasn't for RPM hell, I'd prefer it to Gentoo).

I think the testing period for Mandrake 9.0 was longer than for their last few releases. Both Mandrake and Gentoo are works in progress, there's a lot of change in each release. If either was perfect, we'd never need to update. :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so...

Plus since we decided to releace the release candidate by puting under the instll link i'd say we won. Gentoo 12 vanished from here before mandrake 8 vanished from mandrake.com
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a spare block of free space on my pc, so I decided to take the newest version of my old favorite Mandrake for a test spin. I put 9.0 on my pc this afternoon.

Here are a few of my experiences:

The install went pretty well, until it hung with the "waiting watch" after configuring my printer.... REBOOT. Installed as an update to avoid the hour long package load, and continued on. (Actually suprised it worked so well that way). The rest of the install went well, and I rebooted my machine. I first booted Gentoo, and added my Mandrake info into Grub, and rebooted into my brand new Mandrake system.

Things went well until I decided to log my user into KDE for the first time. My pc locked HARD half way through the KDE startup... at "loading window manager". REBOOT.... then... disk errors...fix-em.. I thought this might be a fluke until it did it again. REBOOT.... disk errors....fix-em. Decided to go with Gnome this time. Finally got into Gnome, and started looking around. The very first thing I tried was Tux Racer (of course). Game switched screen to black with a pointer, but stalled there..... waiting...waiting... hard lock.... REBOOT.

Rebooted into Gentoo, and decided to post. :-)
(I think I'll stay with Gentoo) ;-)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 4:41 am    Post subject: hmmm...my drake 9 has 3.0.3 Reply with quote

I just installed mandrake 9.0 and It uses KDE 3.0.3. Not that it really matters. It's a nice system, and works well on my laptop, but I still love Gentoo so much more :) My only question is why do we have distro releases (other than for marking milestones)? It seems that so much stuff lands in feature freeze and is masked in portage yet is stable...ie... xfree 4.2.1, mozilla 1.1. It's inconvenient to unmask this stuff (and kde3.1_beta1) everytime I rsync. I'm not really complaining here, because I can't think of a better way to do it, but I'm just saying we shouldn't try to compete and perhaps we should rethink distro releases. As far as mandrake, hats off to them for being one of the first to include Gnome 2.01 and KDE 3.0.3 and XFree 4.2.1 :)
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