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davidmccabe
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 Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Baz!
I was under the impression that the stage3 tarball contained the source code for everything, but no!
It only contains the portage stuff, not the source code. It keeps trying to grab stuff off the net. Now what should I do?
I have thus far resisted the urge the use a little graphical emoticon...  |
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delta407
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| stage3 contains pre-compiled binaries, not source code, and not the entire distfiles directory. I compiled everything from stage 1 on Big Box and installed all the applications before transferring to Little Box, preventing the need to connect to the 'net. |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Big Box isn't on the net, either. This is my setup:
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.~'`'~.~'`'~.
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I know that's crazy, but there is nothing I can do about it. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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From the thread entitled "Offline Installation?":
| lx wrote: | Well, you can edit the /etc/make.conf file, if you override the FETCHCOMMAND: | Code: | FETCHCOMMAND='echo ${URI} >> /sourcelist'
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but this way you don't get the mirrors. A solution is
| Code: | FETCHCOMMAND='echo ${URI} >> /sourcelist; false'
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but this way all mirrors are supplied and you have multiple URL's for the same source package.
Well start the install at home until bootstrap.h (you need internet connection to do emerge rsync, else your using outdated packages or get the tree (/usr/portage/...) at work http://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/rsync/ ). change the /etc/make.conf file (carefully selected all the USE flags you want, cause you need these to download extra dependencies) and check inside the /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.h file for all build packages. ( portage / gettext / binutils /baselayout /gcc /glibc /..?) . Now you use emerge -f <package names> and there URLs are put into the file /sourcelist. think you need something like emerge portage gettext binutils baselayout gcc glibc followed by emerge system and at last emerge gentoo-sources nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx alsa-driver alsa-utils alsa-libs alsa-oss xfree kde mozilla ..... Maybe some URLs are listed double so use something to remove the double lines cat /sourcelist | sort | uniq.
Just don't forget any file.
Cya lX. |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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<smile> Digesting...CANNOT COMPUTE </smile>
So, exactly what do I have to do (exactly, all spelled out)?
Note that iMac is running Mac OS 10.1, and most certainly will not be running any Linux, if that is required. |
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delta407
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| This way, you can run all the emerge commands you need and it will dump a list of the URLs you need to fetch to "/sourcelist", which you can download on your iMac, cut to a CD, and copy to your /usr/portage/distfiles/ directory. |
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alec
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll try and clarify:
| Code: | | FETCHCOMMAND='echo ${URI} >> /sourcelist' |
When you say "I wanna emerge vim!" and go and type 'emerge vim', the fetch command will not really fetch anything (not that it could), but will write the URL that it would fetch to the file /sourcelist - pretty nice script there, delta407.
You can then use the list manually or with something like wget (read the man page - it's a pretty nifty program). |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, that's cool! Sorry I got a little confused before. I will try that.
By the way, does anyone have any tips for transporting a long list of URLs, other then that nasty pencil-and-paper stuff? |
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alec
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Floppy? Printer? Mind-meld? |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dang iMac has no floppy drive (only in theory do floppies need to die).
I don't own a printer.
Where can I get 'Mind-Melding in Ten Easy Steps'? |
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BradN
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Borrow someone's laptop (or even another computer) and file transfer the list onto that? |
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klieber
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Polaroid? Digital camera?
Not sure how decent the resolution would be and if the text would be legible, though...
--kurt
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delta407
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Or, you could just build a real home LAN and be done with it.  |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Or, you could just build a real home LAN and be done with it. |
That was a rather insolent comment.
Believe me, it is not I, but certain paranoid cluelesses that create this unfortunate situation.
Here's the deal: we are building a new house at the moment, which will be ready to move into in about a month. It (at last) has Ethernet wiring all over it.
In the past, certain paranoid cluelesses have been afraid of the Internet, and have required that its usage be monitored, for fear of "garbage" and "freaks".
I finally convinced somebody to allow Net access that wasn't "out in the open", e.g., in my bedroom, from my real computers.
I've got this old Pentium that I'll be using as an NAT router/firewall, which is what I want to install Gentoo on.
Anyway, there is nothing I can do about it at this time. I want to get the router working before we move in, which looks lie July 17th.
What do you think of that? |
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klieber
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| davidmccabe wrote: | | That was a rather insolent comment. |
You left out the emoticon that the original poster used. That is generally intended to convey humor. Meaning it was a joke. Meaning you shouldn't take it too seriously.
| Quote: | | Believe me, it is not I, but certain paranoid cluelesses that create this unfortunate situation. |
Translation: your parents don't like you surfing the net unsupervised.
Anyway, you asked a question to which there is no good answer. Short of writing down the URLs, there is no good way to transfer the list of files from one computer to the other. So yes, it's a one-way shoe net.
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orkid
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| Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Hold on here a second. Once you get the list of files you need can't you hookup the big box to the imac (disconnecting the net)?
AFAIK Imacs have builtin ethernet, and I'm assuming your big box has it too (since it can connect to little box).
So just hookem up 
This is the most bizzare setup situation I've seen in a while. No net (cept for mac), small computer. anyway. hth |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hold on here a second. Once you get the list of files you need can't you hookup the big box to the imac (disconnecting the net)?
AFAIK Imacs have builtin ethernet, and I'm assuming your big box has it too (since it can connect to little box).
So just hookem up
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But wait! What if someone just *had* to discuss classic literature at http://www.pimberly.com/ right now? We wouldn't dare deprive her of Net access, would we? |
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delta407
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| You could get a NATing router and a little hub, or a little proxy server and a little hub, or... |
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davidmccabe
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You could get a NATing router and a little hub, or a little proxy server and a little hub, or... |
That is precisely what I am trying to do.
We are getting very off-topic, however, and therefore I think we should stop this discussion of URL transfers and all that.
Thank you all for your help with the low-memory install. |
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