How do I uninstall UT2K4 :?:

T_Janis · n00b Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 25

I've been playing UT2K4 on my Gentoo boxen and my XP Pro boxen and decided I want to uninstall it from my Gentoo boxen...

How do I uninstall it? I installed it using the sh script on the install cd..

For some reason (why?) it looks better and runs better on my XP boxen...

Thanks for the info

T.

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#2 | game boxen | P4 2.6 HT, 512mb, ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro
#3 | ICS, media boxen | Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 768mb, ATI Radeon 9000 128 mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro

T_Janis · n00b Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 25

anyone?

com'on help the noob!

GrayFox · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:

Although I don't share your opinion do this:

tactless · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject:

It's true, from what I've heard. First of all, there's that physics engine bug that only seems to occur commonly on Linux. Furthermore, the OpenGL/OpenAL implementation of the game is not as good as the DirectX implementation - it's significantly slower and of slightly lower quality.
As for uninstalling - I'd just delete the thing. If you didn't install it with a package manager, then there's no package manager keeping track of it. You want to delete the following:
/usr/local/games/ut2004
/usr/local/bin/ut2004
~/.ut2004 - saved data (you might be able to transfer this, I guess)
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T_Janis · n00b Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 25

tactless · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject:

I for one am actually all for the idea of a gaming rig that is separate from the primary computer. In my opinion it should be a console (but one with a keyboard and mouse, so you can play FPS games on it) that has a very minimal operating system. Your standard desktop Linux distribution has too much stuff going on for optimal gameplay, and games can be developed much more easily when they have completely free access to all RAM. Linux can do this, obviously - but not enough games are being developed for it.
Anyone else think that gaming and PC usage should be done on two separate machines?
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mollmerx · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 41 Location: Cambridge, UK

Hi tactless,

I actually disagree with you on that one for couple of reasons.

First, there is the issue of practicality: My one desktop computer that I have in my room already takes up a whole desk. When I want to do pen and paper work, I have to move keyboard and mouse to the side. I simply wouldn't have any space for a separate gaming system. I am absolutely certain that I am not the only person here who would have that problem.

Secondly, the issue of cost. My desktop system is for three main tasks: server/downloader, desktop (ie. surfing, coding, word processing) and gaming. I have a 3200+ in that box. Now, for server activities this is, of course, total overkill. Even with desktop applications my computer spends most of its time twiddling its thumbs, BUT these application run nice an fast when they have something to thinkt about and that is nice. For gaming, of course, really up-to-date hardware is absolutly necessary. (OK, some may disagree here, but gaming is definitely more hardware dependent than desktop) If I had a separate gaming system, I would need TWO of absolute every single component in my computer. Now THAT would be expensive.

Much better solution: ATI get their act together and finally produce better drivers for Linux. If they don't, we just buy nvidia cards - I understand their drivers are not too bad.

EPIC need to get their act together as well. My interpretation of the situation is that both UT2004 and UT2003 were programmed on and for Windows (which is understandable, somehow). EPIC spent months optimising it for Windows, changing ways for things to be done to run nice and fast on Windows. Then they got a couple of guys to port it so they could sell it as 'linux compatible'. If we keep buying games that support Linux, we will eventually steer them the right way. IMHO the implementation of UT2004 in Linux was already better that UT2003.

Any reasonable operating system, even Windows, but especially Linux should be able to deal with gaming and other apps efficiently without much of a fuss. Using separate PCs for different tasks ist just taking a step backwards.

Zepp · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:08 pm Post subject:

i like the idea if it were an option. if you have the two machines to use then why not have option of running without a big os or whatever. but as stated having two seperate machines can be a big problem.

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T_Janis · n00b Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 25

I've collected several pc's over the last few years and currently have 3 running (check my sig).

The Athlon XP boxen is currently setup as my ICS (internet connection sharing), downloader, and my media player (mp3, video, movies, etc.) out to my TV and stereo. It has the ATI remote wonder for controlling the media functions and I use VNC from my Gentoo boxen to control it otherwise...

My main P4 boxen as stated is my daily use system..

The second P4 system as also stated is my dedicated gaming rig and doesnt see much other action except for MSN messenger... I also use VNC to remotely manage this system when not playing games on it..

I only have one monitor, mouse and keyboard (usb keyboard and mouse) and when it's time for gaming I shut off the monitor and unplug/plug it in to the game rig... the usb keyboard and mouse are nice for this too... I could really use a KVM switch though (keyboard, video , mouse switch...) that would make things much easier...

One boxen sits under my desk in the computer space and the other two systems (which are alot smaller than the first) are stacked beside my desk...

Thankfully VNC exists, it makes managing multiple computers a breeze...

I dread going to my XP boxen except for playing games... I have really become a diehard Gentoo fan and love every minute playing with the OS...

T.

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#1 | main boxen | P4 2.6 HT, 512mb, Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb 8xAGP | Gentoo Linux
#2 | game boxen | P4 2.6 HT, 512mb, ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro
#3 | ICS, media boxen | Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 768mb, ATI Radeon 9000 128 mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro

mollmerx · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 41 Location: Cambridge, UK

Yes, I suppose the setup you describe is definitely better than having a dual boot system to boot to windows from. But I still think that the whole point in a computer is its versatility, being able to do many different tasks.

I would not be able to justifiy chucking money for latest processors, motherboars, RAM and high performance disks at my system if I had gaming and desktop computing split on two platforms: For Desktop computing there is just not enough of performance increase, and gaming is just not serious enough for me.

DarrenM · Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:22 am Post subject:

If your linux machine had too much stuff on it for gaming there is only one person to blame :wink:

Edweirdo · Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject:

After many years of using Linux as my primary operating system I have decided not to run windows at all. The problem, obviously, with this is that as a gamer I do not play any Windows games. Because of this, I refuse to buy any game that does not support Linux. I did buy UT2004 because I could play the demo on Linux and decided it was worth buying. I find it looks quite nice on my system. I don't have anything to compare it to so I don't really care. It does crash once in awhile though.
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T_Janis · n00b Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 25

I dont play many games either... I've played UT, UT2K3 and now UT2K4 and that's about it.

I think my problem was that I could compare UT2K4 on both my machines... My Gentoo boxen uses the NV and my XP boxen uses ATI, and I think the Radeon 9000 Pro 128mb is a better card than the NV MX440 64mb so that might have influenced my decision to play it on the XP boxen for now. That might also be why it looks better?

The only other game/sim I need is RealFlight G2 to practice flying my rc heli (I wonder if that would run with wine or something?)

I also think the reason I have not made the switch to linux entirely is the TV out options with ATI cards (haven't had much luck when I did try with linux), I need to have my media goto my TV and stereo and be remotely controlled with my ATI remote wonder (can the remote wonder work with linux?).

One other snag for me to switch entirely to linux.. I'm on the wireless side of a network (Linksys wusb11 v2.5) that my Athlon XP boxen uses to share my connection with my other two pc's... I've had no luck getting wireless going with linux..

T.

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#1 | main boxen | P4 2.6 HT, 512mb, Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb 8xAGP | Gentoo Linux
#2 | game boxen | P4 2.6 HT, 512mb, ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro
#3 | ICS, media boxen | Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 768mb, ATI Radeon 9000 128 mb 4xAGP | Windows XP Pro

tactless · Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject:

A standard multi-user Linux environment is not optimal for gaming simply because it doesn't let games gain access to all RAM, and it has to go through a lot of hassle to get permissions to use it. This is also true with Windows, actually... modern operating systems make it harder (for the computer) to run games. A great example is Star Control II - take a look at the original system requirements, and at the requirements of uqm... This problem is nowadays overcome by adding more beef to computers. The cost issue of having an extra system is a big one as well, and we're all left hoping that more games get released for Linux, and that graphics card manufacturers improve their drivers.
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zakk · l33t Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 614 Location: Oakland, CA

The remote wonder (usb) does work.