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What Processor should I use for my new Gentoo Box? |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: GenToo Processor Pick |
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I just finished getting KDE 3.2 up on my first ever gentoo install, and it's on my Netserver LC3 450MHz w/ 512MB RAM & 30GB HDD.
However, I'm gonna be building a new box right quick and I wanted to know what people thought would be a good processor to go with. There's only two options cause I only want it to be a single CPU box and I don't think I need 64bit. |
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Cossins Veteran
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1136 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I voted Athlon XP, but I seriously think you should go with 64 bit... "640 Kb ought to be enough for everybody..."
- Simon _________________ who cares |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so If anyone thinks I should go 64-bit processor....then please suggest a which one, cause I know next to nothing about the 64-bit processors. |
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Cossins Veteran
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1136 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Smilez:) wrote: | Ok, so If anyone thinks I should go 64-bit processor....then please suggest a which one, cause I know next to nothing about the 64-bit processors. |
I haven't tried any of them, but the Athlon 64 3000+ should be safe enough.
Try searching Google and/or different hardware sites for reviews and benchmarks.
- Simon _________________ who cares |
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cbr Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Tallinn/Rakvere, Estonia
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'd buy Athlon64 FX-53 if i had the money
But AthlonXP is a fine processor i believe. |
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Reaper n00b
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 5 Location: Slovakia,EU
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I would choose one of these :
32 bit :Athlon XP Barton 2500+
32-64 bit :Athlon 64 3000+ _________________ Athlon 1700@2400+ , Gentoo Inside |
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ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ $384.00CND
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ $123.00CND
i think i'll be goin with the 2600+ |
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Cossins Veteran
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1136 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Smilez:) wrote: | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ $384.00CND
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ $123.00CND
i think i'll be goin with the 2600+ |
You didn't have to compare the top 64-bit model with the middle-range 32 -bit model...
An Athlon 64 3000+ is 1575,- DKR (retail), which is about $262 USD. Don't know what that is in CND...
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SB n00b
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 74 Location: At The Bar!
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm more than happy with my Athlon64 3200+ _________________ SB
"The gene pool could use a little chlorine..." |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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what motherboard are you using? |
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viperlin Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Get an Athlon XP 2500
i have a 2600 and deeply regret getting it over the 2500 as the 2500 you can overclock to a 3200 with a very simple bios mod (i think it was just the bios mod) |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone else configure this? PLEASE!! |
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viperlin Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Smilez:) wrote: | Can anyone else configure this? PLEASE!! |
configure? you mean confirm?
taskara wrote: | TheCoop wrote: | wire trick? what effect wll it have on a 2500+ barton that has a maximum multiplier of 11.5x? |
The wiretrick lets you change the multiplier to anything you want, hence allowing for a better overclock.
for example, someone might have a 2600+ that runs at 1860Mhz.
that is 133fsbx14multiplier.
Using the wiretrick they could change the multiplier down to 10, and up the fsb to 200, giving them a 2000Mhz cpu.
If they did NOT change the multipler, then they would have to run at 142fsbX14 = 2000Mhz, but will not be as fast as the example above at 200fsb.
Barton 2500+ are a beautiful cpu, because they have the same multipler as a 3200+ so all you need to do is increase the fsb from 166 to 200, to give you a 3200+ cpu. (you'll need to adjust voltages and cpu fans naturally). |
from https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=78992&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=2500+overclock&start=50
few posts down, avatar is a tux with a backwards F and a o on it's belly |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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oops, yah i meant confirm so what happens when you're doin 4 things at once! |
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viperlin Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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make && make install |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so here's I'm thinking so far...
AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Asus A7V600 Motherboard
Kingston 512MB DDR400
ATI 9600 XT
Maxtor SATA 80GB w/ 8MB Cache
LG CD-RW 52X24X52X/DVD-ROM 16X
how's that sound? |
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Malakin Veteran
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 1692 Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to overclock go with a mobile athlon XP, they are not multiplier locked and overclock quite well. They cost only slightly more considering they don't come with a cooler. They work in most desktop motherboards.
I just ordered an XP2400 mobile for $107cnd which is a barton core (unlike the desktop model) and plan to run it at 2.4Ghz or so with a 200mhz fsb (200x12). For comparison a stock XP2500 runs at 166x11=1833mhz with only a 166Mhz fsb, so an extra 567mhz is 31% higher frequency plus a higher fsb will be a substantial performance improvement. Some people run them up to 2.6-2.7Ghz so 2.4Ghz should be easy, I don't plan on putting a noisy cooler on it. |
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viperlin Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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my dad bought some Kingston ram, it was crap |
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cbr Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Tallinn/Rakvere, Estonia
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Why not ABIT NF7-S? |
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Malakin Veteran
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 1692 Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Asus A7V600 Motherboard
Kingston 512MB DDR400
ATI 9600 XT
Maxtor SATA 80GB w/ 8MB Cache
LG CD-RW 52X24X52X/DVD-ROM 16X | I'd go with an Nvidia Geforce FX5900XT (~$260cnd), it's substantially faster, slightly more expensive (~$40cnd more), and being Nvidia it will work much better in linux. If you do buy one I suggest the MSI FX5900XT-VTD128, it's extremely quiet.
I like Seagate hard drives, they are the quietest, the most reliable and good performers.
The cdrw/dvd combo drive is about $60cnd, for $100cnd you can get an LG or Lite-on multiformat 4x dvd burner.
When it comes to ram I usually buy whatever is cheapest by either Infineon/Samsung/Micron. Don't have anything against Kingston but I find their ram costs more and I've never had problems with the three brands listed. Don't buy generic, it's just not worth it.
Last edited by Malakin on Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:40 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Smilez:) n00b
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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He probably bought ValueRAM, which IS crap. I don't buy that shit.
KVR400X64C3A/512 good stuff |
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viperlin Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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he didn't buy the "crap stuff" either, although were not entirely sure as his motherboard wasn't working at the time (bios fuckup when new and he didn't know) |
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mastergoon Apprentice
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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get an itanium |
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Aurora l33t
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 658 Location: Classified
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:35 am Post subject: |
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First thing to go: Microsoft Windows XP
Looks like a very nice system...and cheap!
I'd buy it but I'm broke _________________ "My downfall raises me to infinite heights." -Napoleon Bonaparte |
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