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jimbo n00b
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:15 am Post subject: |
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UT2004 Benchmark scores:
XFree86 4.3: 39
XORG: 31
Switching back to XFree for a while... _________________ Lian-Li PC-07
Athlon-XP 1900
512MB Crucial PC2100
Soltek SL-75FRV KT400
NVIDIA GF3 ti200
SBLive! |
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MikeP Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 115 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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shift wrote: | Is it me, or does Xorg seem to take much longer starting up than XFree86? |
Some people say the opposite, for me, i don't really notice a difference, both start very fast on my sys... |
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Neo_0815 l33t
Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 815 Location: Leipzig
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I am runnig xorg since 2 month ... might be a little bit less or more.
Its running fine - but sometimes, xorg freezes my pc - mouse is working, sound, and all other things too, but keyboard and graphics are locked - no <ctrl-alt-backspace> to get it working again.
Only way to get around is to login from another machine per ssh or telnet and kill the process or to make cold reboot - thats a little bit annoying.
The logs dont show any eror report or something else to figure out why it happened, anyone else have this problem?
I will go back to xfree for now, because the performance is the same on my system, but it dont freezes like xorg sometimes.
best regards |
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froke Apprentice
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 174 Location: Westside USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just installed xorg on my laptop without any problems. Didn't even need to change any of the XF86Config. It seems to run just as fast, if not faster. Unfortunately I have not been able to test any games. _________________ Top notch image hosting. Great for screen shots! http://www.imagelink.org |
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Lisandro Apprentice
Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 154 Location: Rosario, SFE, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Fixed Opera 7.5: emerge corefonts. Seems the X.Org ebuild doesn't list it as a dependence, and Opera defaults to other (similar) fonts that don't look as well. You may need to delete your opera.ini in ~/.opera aswell as it doesn't have an option to rollback to default fonts.
As for booting speed, it seems to boot a bit faster than XFree did in my system. It's not an incredible difference, but it's noticeable. |
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Goat Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: |
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after a long time of emerging xorg i get an error saying it failed
it had an illegal instruction on x_cursor and then it started saying
*** [all] Error 2 and
*** [world] Error 2
along with leaving directorys
what is wrong with this thing i kept getting illegal instructions when i tryed to run xf86config with xfree emerged. |
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jstuart n00b
Joined: 03 Dec 2002 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I LOVE it!
I just emerged it in, had to restart XFS and boom. Was done in about oh an hour or so.
It's FASTER, and uses less memory than Xfree! Xfree tended to balloon on me to almost 320 Mb total usage. Xorg is 176 Mb!!!!!! And my fonts look cleaner! LOL _________________ Jeff Stuart
JAHGU (Just another happy Gentoo User) |
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Ignignokt n00b
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 59
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Couldn't have been more painless. 3 commands: Code: | # emerge -C xfree
# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge xorg-x11
# etc-update |
and that was IT! Everything worked flawlessly the first time. Excellent work! I have an nvidia GF3 ti500. |
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incubator Guru
Joined: 05 Jun 2003 Posts: 584 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: |
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on my computer xorg takes longer to boot as well yes , but I dont mind, as long as it performs well |
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Dracnor Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2003 Posts: 397 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have only good things to say about xorg. It seems to be faster than xfree. It also fixed my mouse wheel problem. Everything seems to integrate nicely (like nvidia drivers). Can't wait for more improvements to come |
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tr4nce n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 68 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Is there any chance to have problem with MediaPlayers?
I get a crappy quality with mplayer, Help anybody? |
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Furbeh n00b
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 13 Location: Norway, Bergen
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
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xorg worked like a charm |
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sdaffis Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 100 Location: Umeå, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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For me the switch to xorg was completely painless! Faster startup times is really appreciated! _________________ Believe the lie |
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grzewho l33t
Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 626 Location: /home/g
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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xorg-x11 works perfectly for me too! painless install, faster startup and finally my multimedia keys work with X _________________
Code: | USE="freedom -software_patents" emerge --deep --update world |
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ryceck Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 195
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Am I the only person who isnt impressed by Xorg...???
My gdm (or entrance) loads like shit since I installed Xorg.
With Xfree my init.d/xdm would start and immediately display my DM (GDM or Entrance). Now with Xorg I first get to see that X-checkers field (the black and white) with the crappy black cross for 3 seconds before I see my DM....
I that normal behaviour or did I do something wrong.
Upgrading to the 6.7.0-r1 didn't solve it btw. |
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Ian l33t
Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 834 Location: Somerville, MA
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Upgrading to r1 screwed up Xinerama for me, or at least that was the only thing I could find that changed. Still haven't fixed it yet. |
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StuRReaL Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 117
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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when is x-org going to become stable in gentoo? I mean it runs beautifully it seems much faster then xfree |
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ryceck Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 195
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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StuRReaL wrote: | when is x-org going to become stable in gentoo? I mean it runs beautifully it seems much faster then xfree |
It already is in "~x86", and since that has NEVER! broke my system I consider that stable |
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StuRReaL Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 117
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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ryceck wrote: | StuRReaL wrote: | when is x-org going to become stable in gentoo? I mean it runs beautifully it seems much faster then xfree |
It already is in "~x86", and since that has NEVER! broke my system I consider that stable |
well yeah i consider it stable but portage doesn't :S so when i run emerge -u system or world then it wants to install xfree |
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shift Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 146 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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ryceck wrote: | Am I the only person who isnt impressed by Xorg...???
My gdm (or entrance) loads like shit since I installed Xorg.
With Xfree my init.d/xdm would start and immediately display my DM (GDM or Entrance). Now with Xorg I first get to see that X-checkers field (the black and white) with the crappy black cross for 3 seconds before I see my DM....
I that normal behaviour or did I do something wrong.
Upgrading to the 6.7.0-r1 didn't solve it btw. |
I have to stare at a watch for like 20 secs. Odd. _________________ Wallpapers:
Gentoo Space
Gentoo Infinity
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XB-70 n00b
Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:18 am Post subject: |
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StuRReaL wrote: | ryceck wrote: | StuRReaL wrote: | when is x-org going to become stable in gentoo? I mean it runs beautifully it seems much faster then xfree |
It already is in "~x86", and since that has NEVER! broke my system I consider that stable |
well yeah i consider it stable but portage doesn't :S so when i run emerge -u system or world then it wants to install xfree |
*** Newbie Allert ***
Everything was running soooo nicely 'till I emerge -u system
How do I do this in the future so that I update xorg-x11 NOT xfree86?
(I had to un-install xfree86 and re-install xorg-x11)
Ximian office blew up and KDE was all screwed. Who do we push to get X.Org as the portage default? NOTE: Many of the other O/S's are switching.
Box: PII - 350 Mhz
256 Meg Ram <- this is KEY!
5 Gig HD
Cheezy CD-ROM
Crummy graphics card
Just have to say this: Gentoo runs on this piece of crap box like it has no business. I've had Mozilla, Ximian OpenOffice and a couple of other apps running. For a beater machine, Gentoo makes it run way faster than it has any right to. This O/S is simply awesome. Thanks to all the folks who have spent so many sleepless nights obsessing about it. _________________ Don't be dull. |
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jarealist Apprentice
Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 228
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Very easy switching over from XFree - not one problem. A much more stable/solid feel to it, and it does seem to load a little faster. I would like to see the "gray" portion of the X-Org load sequence display changed to just a "black" screen. |
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LouTheBlueGuru n00b
Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 44 Location: Fayetteville, AR
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Except for the stupid grey startup screen, it works just fine on both my x86 and a64. I do wish someone would try to figure out how to get rid of the nonfunctional grey startup screen! _________________ Lou_The_Blue_Guru
For those working with computers that havent figured this out yet: "Everything is related with every other thing ... " -- The Jaina Philosophy of Non-Absolutism |
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elpollodiablo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 141
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:03 am Post subject: |
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i'm using xorg since it appeared in portage.... it works fast and smooth, it solved problems with my radeon card (noise on the screen at hi-res, like 1280 or 1600) but i have a big problem: if i start two opengl applications everything freezes! cold reboot is needed, no way to log using ssh.....
and, if i launch mplayer like this:
the my workstation locks when mplayer starts playing the second movie... |
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Maedhros Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 5511 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: |
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XB-70 wrote: | Everything was running soooo nicely 'till I emerge -u system
How do I do this in the future so that I update xorg-x11 NOT xfree86?
(I had to un-install xfree86 and re-install xorg-x11)
Ximian office blew up and KDE was all screwed. |
Code: | mkdir -p /etc/portage
echo "xorg-x11 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
That's a generally better way to use unstable packages than using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line... _________________ No-one's more important than the earthworm. |
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