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Sgaduuw
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so any chance on supermount being removed anytime soon? 
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ejohnson
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| Ah nice,New ways to destroy my install. Thanks Steel300! I look forward to it. |
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zerojay
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Spawn of Lovechild wrote: | YOU INCLUDED SUPERMOUNT??
That patch is pure, refined evil... |
Which is why it was included in the evil-sources for so long.  |
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zerojay
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| steel300 wrote: | | Evil Dark Archon wrote: | | i guess the only reason for evil-sources now is the sysfs backing store and reiserfs acls. |
I didn't mean to step on your toes with this release. I got sick of people asking for supermount, so I included it. The pci ids db should have been included much earlier. I'm avoiding enything that will cause reiser4 to be less stable (sysfs backing patch). If reiserfs compiled without acl support, then I would have included that as well. |
So... Reiser4 as well as Reiser are not included so those of us using reiser on our drives are out of luck? |
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steel300
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| DarkStalker wrote: | | steel300 wrote: | | Evil Dark Archon wrote: | | i guess the only reason for evil-sources now is the sysfs backing store and reiserfs acls. |
I didn't mean to step on your toes with this release. I got sick of people asking for supermount, so I included it. The pci ids db should have been included much earlier. I'm avoiding enything that will cause reiser4 to be less stable (sysfs backing patch). If reiserfs compiled without acl support, then I would have included that as well. |
So... Reiser4 as well as Reiser are not included so those of us using reiser on our drives are out of luck? |
Reiser4 is included. Reiserfs is in the default kernel. If you have a reiser partition, you'll be fine with love-sources.
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Spawn of Lovechild
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Sgaduuw wrote: | | so any chance on supermount being removed anytime soon? |
Wait do I owe you pizza now?
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Sgaduuw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Spawn of Lovechild wrote: | | Sgaduuw wrote: | | so any chance on supermount being removed anytime soon? |
Wait do I owe you pizza now? |
Well I just ate ghehe
but a nice cold beer would be nice 
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| tdb wrote: | | Quote: | | 2.6.4_rc1-love3 aka "Let's Kill All Of The Stupid Peopl |
Does this mean I should start fearing for my life now? |
naaa... not as long as you're using love-sources  |
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Evil Dark Archon
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| steel300 wrote: | | Evil Dark Archon wrote: | | i guess the only reason for evil-sources now is the sysfs backing store and reiserfs acls. |
I didn't mean to step on your toes with this release. I got sick of people asking for supermount, so I included it. The pci ids db should have been included much earlier. I'm avoiding enything that will cause reiser4 to be less stable (sysfs backing patch). If reiserfs compiled without acl support, then I would have included that as well. |
thats okay, oh and you made an understatement with the sysfs backing patch making reiser4 less stable, with it, it doesn't compile at all, i include the error i get in the release notes of every evil-sources release i put out.
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steel300
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Evil Dark Archon wrote: | | steel300 wrote: | | Evil Dark Archon wrote: | | i guess the only reason for evil-sources now is the sysfs backing store and reiserfs acls. |
I didn't mean to step on your toes with this release. I got sick of people asking for supermount, so I included it. The pci ids db should have been included much earlier. I'm avoiding enything that will cause reiser4 to be less stable (sysfs backing patch). If reiserfs compiled without acl support, then I would have included that as well. |
thats okay, oh and you made an understatement with the sysfs backing patch making reiser4 less stable, with it, it doesn't compile at all, i include the error i get in the release notes of every evil-sources release i put out. |
I'll check out the errors and see what I can do.
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IntergalacticWalrus
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| What's with this unjustified hatred of supermount? The modern supermount (supermount-ng) kicks ass. Mounting and unmounting a CD-ROM drive is a waste of time. And if I had a penny for everytime some stupid program left an opened handle to a file on a CD-ROM, making the drive completely unmountable, therefore unejectable... that is, unless supermount is used, of course. |
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floam
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Supermount is a bad way to do things. A much cleaner solution would use dbus and hal (gvm does this, but doesn't really work yet) to get signals from the cdrom when media is put in, and mount it then, instead of on access to /mnt/cdrom/,
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zerojay
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| floam wrote: | | Supermount is a bad way to do things. A much cleaner solution would use dbus and hal (gvm does this, but doesn't really work yet) to get signals from the cdrom when media is put in, and mount it then, instead of on access to /mnt/cdrom/, |
I'll be waiting until I do not need to install a gnome program to use it. |
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floam
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| DarkStalker wrote: | | floam wrote: | | Supermount is a bad way to do things. A much cleaner solution would use dbus and hal (gvm does this, but doesn't really work yet) to get signals from the cdrom when media is put in, and mount it then, instead of on access to /mnt/cdrom/, |
I'll be waiting until I do not need to install a gnome program to use it. |
Neither dbus nor HAL are Gnome programs. GVM is -- but it's just an example of what can be done. And other than a daemon that does not use X, what else could be done? KDE with it's QT sure isn't a viable desktop enviroment. (Burrrrn!) :)
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ktech
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, the lirc bug reported before affects me too. |
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x2z
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Wow... The love-sources get better every release! I'm so glad I switched to Gentoo   |
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ed0n
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| working good here. |
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dub.wav
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: Re: 2.6.4_rc1-love3 aka "Let's Kill All Of The Stupid P |
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+Nick Piggin's Scheduler Work
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Nick has released a new scheduler, which is included. It is recommended that you renice X to -10 or -15. |
Any chance you could provide split out patches for Nicks scheduler? I prefer not having to renice X. |
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superjaded
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Well, initially I was going to ask if, perhaps my system is just too out of date to be helped much from a scheduler, but then I realized it wasn't actually renicing X.
I did notice something -- in bssteph's guide it says that X should be a symlink to XFree86. On my system it's ALWAYS (even before I did any messing with it) been a program called "Xwrapper" instead of XFree86. Just to try, I guess, I set the wrapper to call Xwrapper instead of XFree86. Dunno if this is expected or not, but it didn't seem to nice the X process.
But with renicing X manually (well, sticking in that renice line) under Xfce4 was nothing less than amazing. I was playing back a MPEG4 video (640x480, xvid1) and doing the ol' "move a window like a madman" test (which has always skipped regardless of the scheduling policies the kernel I had been using used) using opaque redrawing and it didn't skip AT ALL! Never seen anything like that before.
Unfortunately it looks like Nick's scheduler is no match for the bloat that is GNOME/metacity. Even moving the mouse to change focus to a different makes the video skip. Everything else seems to be noticebly more responsive, though.. although that might have a lot to do with the fact X is running at -15, rather than it necessarily being the scheduler.
Who knows, this might force me to start using Xfce4 again. |
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asimon
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| floam wrote: | | Supermount is a bad way to do things. A much cleaner solution would use dbus and hal (gvm does this, but doesn't really work yet) to get signals from the cdrom when media is put in, and mount it then, instead of on access to /mnt/cdrom/, |
Supermoint works today. Dbus and HAL not. |
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Koutsos
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for supermount ... I know it's "evil" n all, but I still like using it  |
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SysOP XXL
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Monkey see, monkey do compile the kernel
Great work steel! |
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lhpu
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bssteph
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| superjaded wrote: | Well, initially I was going to ask if, perhaps my system is just too out of date to be helped much from a scheduler, but then I realized it wasn't actually renicing X. :P
I did notice something -- in bssteph's guide it says that X should be a symlink to XFree86. On my system it's ALWAYS (even before I did any messing with it) been a program called "Xwrapper" instead of XFree86. Just to try, I guess, I set the wrapper to call Xwrapper instead of XFree86. Dunno if this is expected or not, but it didn't seem to nice the X process. |
Er... I used to have X pointing to something other than what that guide (not mine!) said it originally would, but I just checked now and it points to XFree86 (and I didn't do the wrapper stuff yet - just as easy to just renice X). What XFree version? Everything should work fine if it points straight to XFree86. Xwrapper may be nicing it back to 0.
The origin of the wrapper is:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=148266#148266 |
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Redeeman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| my laptop appreciates this release |
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