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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:13 am    Post subject: Warm up the old Credit Card Reply with quote

LCD shipments glow but inventories grow

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The second-quarter numbers were also a reflection of high levels of demand, which exceeded supply earlier in the year. But the market is expected to begin suffering from a glut.

'Nuff said.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still a long way to get my plasma 47" TV screen for a descent price...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still a long way to get my plasma 47" TV screen for a descent price...

Just got one a few months ago. Panasonic TH-42PWD5U. It's like night and day -- pictures are that much crisper, sharper and brighter. Colors are much richer and the entire experience is that much better over a CRT. Granted, the cost is significant, but worth it, IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klieber is it true that the screen has to be refilled with a gas of some sort every 2000 viewing hours? It is because retailers around my area are giving me this information and I don't knwo wether it is true.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Klieber is it true that the screen has to be refilled with a gas of some sort every 2000 viewing hours?

bwahahahahah! That's a good one. :)
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It is because retailers around my area are giving me this information and I don't knwo wether it is true.

They're full of excrement. The plasma screens never have to be "refilled" with anything. They are susceptible to screen burn, much like the old computer monitors. You have to be careful not to leave a static image on the screen for too long, but other than that, they're fairly trouble-free.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

klieber wrote:

They're full of excrement. The plasma screens never have to be "refilled" with anything. They are susceptible to screen burn, much like the old computer monitors. You have to be careful not to leave a static image on the screen for too long, but other than that, they're fairly trouble-free.


I don't really know much about plasma screens, but I was talking to my friend who sells them in the big sony store in NYC, and he said that the "lifetime" for a large screen was generally only 3 years. I believe he was talking about the screens actually burning out. Would this be a related problem, or could it be a problem with sony screens specifically? Do you know how long your warranty is for (even though products can last longer than that, it gives a good idea of how long the company thinks most of them will last)?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing this up for me klieber.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

klieber wrote:
Just got one a few months ago. Panasonic TH-42PWD5U.

I'm curious... how much did you pay for that?

I saw a 47" Samsung for $5000, which is a pretty descent price.
But I will wait for it to go down more before investing in that...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't really know much about plasma screens, but I was talking to my friend who sells them in the big sony store in NYC, and he said that the "lifetime" for a large screen was generally only 3 years. I believe he was talking about the screens actually burning out.

Plasma screens essentially work by exciting individual red, green and blue phosphors. Over the normal course of events, those phosphors experience "wear" which shows up by your colors being less vibrant and rich.

In the land of plasma screens, the term "half-life" is used to refer to the point in time where a plasma screen has lost half of its color producing capability. (colors are half as vibrant, etc.)

So, with that bit of background, most manufacturers state the half-life for their screens are in the ~30,000 hour range. If you watch 5 hours of TV each day, every day, your screen will hit its theoretical half-life in a little over 16 years. If you leave it on 24x7, you'll hit the half-life in a little under 3.5 years.

echeslack wrote:
Do you know how long your warranty is for (even though products can last longer than that, it gives a good idea of how long the company thinks most of them will last)?

Plasma warranties average 1-2 years, currently, depending on if you buy the commerical (shorter warranty, but cheaper) or consumer (longer warranty, more expensive) models.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm curious... how much did you pay for that?

$4200. Wait another 12 months or so and the prices should be down in the $3500 - $3750 range.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone considering purchasing a plasma screen or simply interested in learning more about plasma screens in general, I highly recommend this forum. The members there are extremely knowledgeable and (for the most part) friendly and helpful. I knew nothing about plasmas going into my selection process and learned a great deal from those folks.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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$4200. Wait another 12 months or so and the prices should be down in the $3500 - $3750 range.
Hot damn! Plasmas for every room in the house. :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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klieber wrote:
$4200. Wait another 12 months or so and the prices should be down in the $3500 - $3750 range.
Hot damn! Plasmas for every room in the house. :lol:


Oh my God!!! 8O You must be minting to be able to afford that!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh my God!!! 8O You must be minting to be able to afford that!

What the hell do you think all those fancy 4800dpi inkjet printers are used for? Family photos? :)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

klieber wrote:
$4200. Wait another 12 months or so and the prices should be down in the $3500 - $3750 range.

Went to read a little bit on the forum you indicated, I saw on a web site the panasonic 47" for less than $4000.
Also, people say it will be around $3000 in one year... then I will go for it!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

klieber wrote:
craftyc wrote:
Oh my God!!! 8O You must be minting to be able to afford that!

What the hell do you think all those fancy 4800dpi inkjet printers are used for? Family photos? :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 3:13 pm    Post subject: bah Reply with quote

Bah, that's nothing. You gotta warm up the plastic for this:

[img:e5ec0abe7c]http://www.cae.wisc.edu/~grzesiak/images/ibm.jpg[/img:e5ec0abe7c]
Ooooooooh yeah.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My games would never work on this!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! I used to donate plasma in my freshman year of college for $15 a pop. They told me they were sending it to Germany for bio research! Now they are making TVs out of it for $4000?

GET ME MY LAWYER.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:13 am    Post subject: warm up the plastic(?) Reply with quote

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$2,037,674.00


Isn't just a price, it's a message. I have a strong feeling you don't want to buy one without a good support contract. Take a look at pictures of the liquid cooled metal block with those SMPs inside and ask yourself how you isolate a problem.

IBM has a history of providing support, and making a bundle from it. If they could get an ironclad contract they could give you the first 1025 hours free, like AOL.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: IBM Reply with quote

I just find it funny that IBM would actually offer this online. I looked at some of their other stuff and it said something to the effect of: Please contact us regarding pricing of this product.

I can only imagine how much those products would cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if someone wver ordered this online...
I'm sure you could discuss the price for sucha machine...
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