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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ibn al-Hazardous wrote:
Those 60 are the ones explicitly listed as belonging to system. When you do an emerge -pev system you get the dependencies too.

So when you type
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USE="-*" emerge -pev

you'd get only these sixty? (Nevermind that actually performing this emerge would screw up your compiled dependencies)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red-wolf76 wrote:
Ibn al-Hazardous wrote:
Those 60 are the ones explicitly listed as belonging to system. When you do an emerge -pev system you get the dependencies too.

So when you type
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USE="-*" emerge -pev

you'd get only these sixty? (Nevermind that actually performing this emerge would screw up your compiled dependencies)


Not necessarily. Some dependencies are optional (ie defined by USE-flags), but not all. (Can't have bash without ncurses, for example.)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, but wouldn't that be listed in system anyway?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red-wolf76 wrote:
Sure, but wouldn't that be listed in system anyway?


Oops, yes it was, so bash and ncurses was a bad example. But obviously not all mandatory deps are in system. I get 60 packages with "dep -w", 83 packges with "USE=-* emerge -pev system" and 146 with plain "emerge -pev system". Going through the entries in the files named "packges" in my profile and all its parents add up to 60 (of which some are dupes - so they are even fewer). So, going from <60 listed in the profile to 83 listed by "USE=-* emerge -pev system" can only be accounted for by dependencies; or do you know any secret files that I and dep are missing out on? If so, please tell!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Actually, I'm just nosy. 8)

Given the power of portage, it helps to understand how it works and what can be done with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So then everything is ok? But 210 packages still seems to be alot, I guess with X and other goodies it is normal?

EDIT:
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 USE=-* emerge -pev system
gives 83 packages

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think it is quite normal.
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emerge -pev system

gives me 135 reinstalls on the box sitting next to me at work. I have 60 packages in system, 38 in world and a total of 530 installed packages. So 81% of my installation is dependencies...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then I'll stop complaining. Thanks for everyone's input.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: dep -k <package> no longer works Reply with quote

Whenever I try to run:
dep -k <package_name> it is not showing being installed.
eg.
Code:
dep -k gnucash
app-office/gnucash:
         |                           s
         |                   p       p
         |                   p       a   x
         |                   c       r   8
         |                   -       c   6
         | a a             p m     s -   -
         | l m   h i m m   p a s   p f   f
         | p d a p a 6 i p c c 3   a b x b
         | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 o 9 s r s 8 s
         | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 s 0 h c d 6 d
---------+-----------------------------v--
2.0.5    | + +           +         +   +
2.2.2-r1 | ~ ~           ~         ~   ~
2.2.3    | ~ ~           ~         ~   ~


even though gnucash is install and working.
How to fix it?
I have re-emerge "udept" but it doesn't help.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try whether
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emerge --depclean -p
wants to remove it. Be sure to include the "-p" or you'll actually run the command, which may seriously bork your system.

If it gets listed under the packages to be removed, then it isn't in the world file and nothing depends on it. So depending on how you installed it (using "--oneshot" maybe, or manually?), your solution could be to manually add it to the world file.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red-wolf76 wrote:
Try whether
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emerge --depclean -p
wants to remove it. Be sure to include the "-p" or you'll actually run the command, which may seriously bork your system.

If it gets listed under the packages to be removed, then it isn't in the world file and nothing depends on it. So depending on how you installed it (using "--oneshot" maybe, or manually?), your solution could be to manually add it to the world file.


I just run "emerge --depclean" packages like: php, gnucash were not on the list to be removed, they are installed on my system working OK but not showing up when I run "dep -k php" or "dep -k gnucash".
Packages php and gnucash are recorded in the world file.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I just checked, and on my box here, it works ok. Both php and gnucash show output for dep -k foo.

Maybe something's afoot in your installation after all. Have you tried regenerating your world and dependency tree? What's in your keywords? Is package.keywords a file or a directory (file here)...

I wouldn't know why they wouldn't show up on your computer... This is most strange indeed.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed something is going wrong but I can not pin-point what.
I always "emerge -uDNav world" so it should take care of world dependency.
package.keywords is a file (has only two entries):
=net-misc/asterisk-addons-1.2.4
>=app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just used udept for the first time, looks nice. But i find this after doing 'dep -pw' :

Code:
!!!REDUNDANT ENTRY!!! www-servers/apache depended on by:
  dev-lang/php-5.2.6_rc3               apache2? =www-servers/apache-2*
    net-print/cups-1.2.12-r7             php? dev-lang/php
      app-emulation/wine-0.9.49            cups? net-print/cups
        WORLD FILE                           app-emulation/wine


It wants to remove apache from my world. That in itself is ok, but what if i decide i don't need php, cups and wine anymore ?
In that case apache gets removed the next time i do a 'dept -d world', right ? If this is true for apache then it's true for other packages too.
Sounds a little bit dangerous to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This package has been abandoned and ecatmur hasn't been around in at least a year.

I suggest uninstalling it and waiting until someone else writes a similar program.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. Ok, thanks for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great tool. It works fine for me except for one case. dep -w finds the following redundant entry in world:

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!!!REDUNDANT ENTRY!!! app-dicts/aspell-pt depended on by:
  app-text/aspell-0.60.5               linguas_pt? app-dicts/aspell-pt
    app-dicts/aspell-de-0.60_pre20030222  >=app-text/aspell-0.60
      app-text/aspell-0.60.5               linguas_de? app-dicts/aspell-de
    app-dicts/aspell-en-6.0.0            >=app-text/aspell-0.60
      app-text/aspell-0.60.5               linguas_en? app-dicts/aspell-en
      app-text/enchant-1.3.0               || virtual/aspell-dict
        app-editors/gedit-2.20.4-r1          spell? >=app-text/enchant-1.2
          gnome-base/gnome-2.20.3              >=app-editors/gedit-2.20.4
            WORLD FILE                           gnome-base/gnome


However, when I remove the app-dicts/aspell-pt from world and run emerge --depclean, the package is removed.

What could be the reason?
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the
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# dep --spring-clean


and dep wanted to get rid of many kde-3.5.9 packages 8O
I initially installed kde using kde-meta
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then it is technically correct to want to uninstall them, provided they're not listed in the world file.

Just add the packages you want to keep to the world file and it will stop complaining.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d
!!! Unknown USE component: env.d


does not seem critical so I can probalby ignore , but what's this about?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the script hasn't been kept up to scratch with a number of the paradigm changes or syntax alterations in the most current portage, that's all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

udept has been package masked and will be removed from the tree in about 30 - 60 days. The reason is upstream is dead and it doesn't work well with the new EAPI standards. If it comes back to life, I will either unmask it or re-add it to the tree (with an updated version).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: upstream dead? Reply with quote

It's real pity if Ed can't keep maintaining. but, with the recent development of portage, maybe it's better to re-write from scratch. I'd offer to do it, but unfortunately don't know flip-all about coding. :(
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anything similar to this come into being since it was removed from the tree? I was a very handy thing to have around (when it worked, anyway).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think nowadays it may be easier to just create a new @subset for portage. But I wouldn't know if that can handle build order as well.
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