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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoo, upgrade time. You can now do:
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$ ./pruneworld gtk+-1*
preparing USE list.................................................................................................
x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r10:
x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11:
app-emulation/XWine-0.3.2
gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2
media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r1
media-libs/libdv-0.102
media-libs/smpeg-0.4.4-r4
media-sound/lame-3.96
media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre4-r1
net-analyzer/nmap-3.50-r1
net-www/dillo-0.8.0-r2
net-www/netscape-flash-6.0.81
x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.2.0


Plus it now uses the portage depcache, for cleaner dependency resolution.

As a result it is dog slow. But them's the breaks - better slow and accurate, than fast and broken.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not sure, what you script is supposed to do, but it tell's me, that about 99% my system's installed packages are redundant...
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typically your world file should contain about 25% of your installed packages. (total rule of thumb, but whatever). 99% redundant sounds wrong - if you've been forgetting to use --oneshot then up to 75% would be likely.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maintenance release, 0.1.1 "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink".
Only significant change is that all regexps have been switched to use POSIX character classes. This should help deployment on non-Western European systems.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main pruneworld function works fine for me, but the 'emerge prune' replacement does not. It tries to remove both versions of glib, both versions of gtk+, and the newer version of db, despite the fact that I have packages that depend on all of them. I thought for a moment it might be getting keep/delete the wrong way around, but it wants to keep the older db version and I have a package that depends on that too...

I can't see any USE flag weirdness that might be related; the package's compiled USE flags and the current USE flags both require the libraries as dependencies.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones that break are the ones which are not depended on via *exact* dependencies. db-1.85-r1 is kept because gdbm depends on that exact version using equals. Nothing explicitly requires =gtk+-1.2.10-r11, though - they just require =gtk+-1.2*. Same for gtk2: they just request >=2.2 in most cases. This looks like a bug, but I can't really follow the code in smartdep well enough to understand it.

It makes the same mistake using it on the command line to request dependencies: if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db it will tell me all the correct packages (those that need the old and also new versions) - if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db-1.81-r1 it tells me the one correct package and omits the others - but if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 it returns no packages.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a question, because I don't really get it... I get things like:

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!!!REDUNDANT!!! net-misc/openssh depended on by:
        SYSTEM PROFILE                                    (as virtual/ssh)

!!!REDUNDANT!!! net-www/apache depended on by:
        net-www/horde-2.2.5
        net-www/horde-imp-3.2.3
        net-www/horde-kronolith-1.1.2
        net-www/horde-pear-1.3-r1
        net-www/horde-turba-1.2.2
        net-www/viewcvs-0.9.2_p20030430


Could you please explain why openssh is redundant?? :? ;)
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having openssh in your world file is redundant - it's already included in the system profile, so it will be considered part of the 'world' whether it is listed or not. This script is to find entries in the world file that can be removed safely, not packages on your system that can be removed safely; the latter is a job for emerge depclean.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

torne wrote:
The ones that break are the ones which are not depended on via *exact* dependencies. db-1.85-r1 is kept because gdbm depends on that exact version using equals. Nothing explicitly requires =gtk+-1.2.10-r11, though - they just require =gtk+-1.2*. Same for gtk2: they just request >=2.2 in most cases. This looks like a bug, but I can't really follow the code in smartdep well enough to understand it.

It makes the same mistake using it on the command line to request dependencies: if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db it will tell me all the correct packages (those that need the old and also new versions) - if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db-1.81-r1 it tells me the one correct package and omits the others - but if I ask for the dependencies of sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 it returns no packages.


I hate to use you like this, but could you download the current version and do the following:

$ ./pruneworld --exec avail_versions sys-libs/db

$ ./pruneworld --exec highest_mlsr $(./pruneworld --exec avail_versions sys-libs/db)

This just doesn't make any sense... it works on my system... but then I am running a mix of ~x86 and -* packages, so hardly a typical Gentoo system I guess...
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preparing USE list.........................................

Return value:0

i.e. it doesn't do anything. It doesn't matter what package name I use, either. =)

I don't mind testing things, I'm just not a bash guru.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I think I've got it... can you try again?

Thanks...
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, pruneworld -P now works correctly - it doesn't want to remove anything any more. =)

Having tried pruneworld -d now, though, I've found the odd one or two more things. =)
1) It doesn't read my stacked profile (so it claims things are redundant because they are in the system profile, except they have been removed from the system profile by /etc/portage/profile/packages) - this is admittedly pretty obscure.
2) It doesn't read package.use, so pruneworld -d wants to remove python-docs, java-sdk-docs..etc because the 'doc' flag is only set on the specific packages that use those, not globally.
3) Mysteriously, it wants to remove xpdf even though kdegraphics depends on it. Running 'pruneworld xpdf' returns no reverse dependencies, but seems to work correctly for all other packages. The only reason I can think of is that kdegraphics doesn't have xpdf in DEPEND, just in RDEPEND..
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great!

2) Sorted: I was reading package.use actually, I just had a bug in my USE stacking code.
3) Sorted: kdegraphics uses an unusual DEPEND pattern, which I failed to handle properly.

1) Um. It is supposed to read /etc/portage/profile/packages. What syntax are you using to remove packages? I have:
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# I use udev, not devfsd
-*sys-fs/devfsd
*sys-fs/udev
and that seems to work OK...
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think it's time for another release: v. 0.1.2 "Sweet Chilli Sauce"

Glad those bugs have been ironed out, it should almost be usable soon... :twisted:

(btw. the -P problem was that Portage internals have changed slightly between 2.0.50 and 2.0.51, so I had to write some extra code for backward compatibility and it wasn't properly tested)
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, works fine now for everything but devfsd. /etc/portage/profile/packages has:
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-*sys-fs/devfsd

I suspect it may be related to the fact that I have devfsd installed anyway (it's listed in the world file). =)
The output from pruneworld is:
Quote:
!!!REDUNDANT!!! sys-fs/devfsd depended on by:
SYSTEM PROFILE (as virtual/dev-manager)

My virtuals file lists devfsd as first choice for virtual/dev-manager (as it was installed more recently); but the system profile depends directly on devfsd, not on the virtual.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

i would really like to use the script cause my world file is f*cked up right now, but the link is broken.

Any chance to get the script some where else??

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

torne wrote:
Yup, works fine now for everything but devfsd. /etc/portage/profile/packages has:
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-*sys-fs/devfsd

I suspect it may be related to the fact that I have devfsd installed anyway (it's listed in the world file). =)
The output from pruneworld is:
Quote:
!!!REDUNDANT!!! sys-fs/devfsd depended on by:
SYSTEM PROFILE (as virtual/dev-manager)

My virtuals file lists devfsd as first choice for virtual/dev-manager (as it was installed more recently); but the system profile depends directly on devfsd, not on the virtual.

Actually, this is correct; virtual/dev-manager is specified in /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages - so the default system profile depends both on virtual/dev-manager and on devfsd directly.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VisionD, sorry - I don't have anywhere else to host it :(

Maybe try again now?
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey ecatmur,

no prob. Downloaded it now and will try it in a few seconds.

Thx in advance
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

works absolutely great for me. World file is repaired!!! Thx so much!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this doesn't work with meta-packages. i decided to playaround, and do a
Code:
regenworld && pruneworld > newworld
and it basically didn't get rid of the kde or gnome packages. this by design?
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, unless I misunderstand that would be expected behaviour, as nothing in Portage depends on Gnome or KDE.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, the whole point of pruneworld is to make what you've emerged more readable. basically removing redundant packages, if something depends on them, right? well, this should count for metapackages also. if you already have kde-base/kde in your world file, why have all the packages that are in the metapackage be in the world also?

in my case, this is is the output of pruneworld originally.
Code:

app-admin/logrotate
app-admin/sudo
app-admin/syslog-ng
app-admin/verynice
app-cdr/k3b
app-emulation/vmware-workstation
app-misc/screen
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-portage/mirrorselect
dev-java/sun-jdk
dev-java/sun-jre
dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin
dev-python/pyzor
dev-util/ccache
dev-util/eclipse-jdt-bin
dev-util/eclipse-platform-bin
games-arcade/frozen-bubble
games-fps/americas-army
games-fps/enemy-territory
games-fps/ut2004-demo
games-roguelike/nethack
gnome-base/gnome
gnome-extra/gdesklets-core
gnome-extra/libgtkhtml
kde-base/kde
media-fonts/aquafont
media-fonts/corefonts
media-fonts/sharefonts
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-libs/alsa-oss
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/grip
media-sound/xmms
media-video/ati-drivers
media-video/mplayer
net-analyzer/netcat
net-analyzer/nmap
net-dns/ddclient
net-fs/samba
net-im/gaim
net-mail/autorespond
net-mail/courier-imap
net-mail/dcc
net-mail/evolution
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql
net-mail/f-prot
net-mail/qmail-scanner
net-mail/qmailadmin
net-mail/razor
net-mail/squirrelmail
net-mail/vpopmail
net-misc/ntp
net-misc/putty
net-misc/rdesktop
net-misc/tightvnc
net-misc/tsclient
net-www/apache
net-www/mozilla-firefox
net-www/netscape-flash
net-www/opera
sys-apps/hotplug
sys-apps/lsof
sys-apps/vixie-cron
sys-boot/grub
sys-devel/distcc
sys-devel/prelink
sys-fs/udev
sys-kernel/genkernel
sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources
x11-base/xfree
x11-plugins/desklet-clock
x11-plugins/desklet-cornerxmms
x11-plugins/desklet-cpuinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-diskinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-goodweather
x11-plugins/desklet-ltvariations
x11-plugins/desklet-meminfo
x11-plugins/desklet-multitail
x11-plugins/desklet-networkinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-psidisplays
x11-plugins/desklet-psisensors
x11-plugins/desklet-starterbar
x11-plugins/desklet-sysinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-temperature
x11-plugins/desklet-weather
x11-themes/gtk-theme-switch
xfce-base/xfce4


this is my world, AFTER a regenworld && pruneworld
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app-admin/fam
app-admin/logrotate
app-admin/sudo
app-admin/syslog-ng
app-admin/verynice
app-arch/cabextract
app-arch/file-roller
app-arch/ncompress
app-arch/rpm2targz
app-arch/zip
app-cdr/cdrtools
app-cdr/k3b
app-crypt/cryptplug
app-crypt/gnupg
app-crypt/hashalot
app-dicts/aspell-en
app-editors/gedit
app-editors/vim-core
app-emulation/vmware-workstation
app-misc/screen
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-portage/mirrorselect
app-text/aspell
app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets
app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils
app-text/docbook-xml-dtd
app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd
app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets
app-text/enchant
app-text/ggv
app-text/ghostscript
app-text/gpdf
app-text/gtkspell
app-text/opensp
app-text/scrollkeeper
app-text/sgml-common
app-text/xpdf
dev-db/mysql
dev-java/blackdown-jdk
dev-java/sun-jdk
dev-java/sun-jre
dev-lang/nasm
dev-lang/swig
dev-lang/tcl
dev-lang/tk
dev-libs/atk
dev-libs/elfutils
dev-libs/expat
dev-libs/fribidi
dev-libs/glib
dev-libs/libIDL
dev-libs/libol
dev-libs/libpcre
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-libs/libxslt
dev-libs/openssl
dev-libs/popt
dev-libs/ucl
dev-perl/DBD-mysql
dev-perl/DBI
dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin
dev-perl/Net-Daemon
dev-perl/SGMLSpm
dev-perl/Storable
dev-perl/XML-Parser
dev-python/PyOpenGL
dev-python/pygtk
dev-python/python-fchksum
dev-python/pyxml
dev-python/pyzor
dev-util/ccache
dev-util/ctags
dev-util/eclipse-jdt-bin
dev-util/eclipse-platform-bin
dev-util/indent
dev-util/intltool
games-arcade/frozen-bubble
games-fps/americas-army
games-fps/enemy-territory
games-fps/ut2004-demo
games-roguelike/nethack
gnome-base/ORBit
gnome-base/ORBit2
gnome-base/control-center
gnome-base/eel
gnome-base/gail
gnome-base/gconf
gnome-base/gdm
gnome-base/gnome
gnome-base/gnome-applets
gnome-base/gnome-desktop
gnome-base/gnome-mime-data
gnome-base/gnome-panel
gnome-base/gnome-session
gnome-base/gnome-vfs
gnome-base/libbonobo
gnome-base/libbonoboui
gnome-base/libglade
gnome-base/libgnome
gnome-base/libgnomecanvas
gnome-base/libgnomeprint
gnome-base/libgnomeprintui
gnome-base/libgnomeui
gnome-base/libgtop
gnome-base/librsvg
gnome-base/nautilus
gnome-extra/acme
gnome-extra/bug-buddy
gnome-extra/gal
gnome-extra/gcalctool
gnome-extra/gconf-editor
gnome-extra/gdesklets-core
gnome-extra/gnome-games
gnome-extra/gnome-media
gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor
gnome-extra/gnome-utils
gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs
gnome-extra/gucharmap
gnome-extra/libgsf
gnome-extra/libgtkhtml
gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner
gnome-extra/nautilus-media
gnome-extra/yelp
gnome-extra/zenity
kde-base/arts
kde-base/kde
kde-base/kde-env
kde-base/kdeaccessibility
kde-base/kdeaddons
kde-base/kdeadmin
kde-base/kdeartwork
kde-base/kdebase
kde-base/kdeedu
kde-base/kdegames
kde-base/kdegraphics
kde-base/kdelibs
kde-base/kdemultimedia
kde-base/kdenetwork
kde-base/kdepim
kde-base/kdetoys
kde-base/kdeutils
media-fonts/aquafont
media-fonts/corefonts
media-fonts/sharefonts
media-gfx/bootsplash
media-gfx/eog
media-gfx/xloadimage
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-libs/alsa-oss
media-libs/audiofile
media-libs/divx4linux
media-libs/faad2
media-libs/flac
media-libs/fontconfig
media-libs/freetype
media-libs/giflib
media-libs/gle
media-libs/glut
media-libs/gst-plugins
media-libs/gstreamer
media-libs/id3lib
media-libs/imlib
media-libs/jpeg
media-libs/lcms
media-libs/libao
media-libs/libart_lgpl
media-libs/libdv
media-libs/libexif
media-libs/libfame
media-libs/libid3tag
media-libs/libmad
media-libs/libmikmod
media-libs/libmng
media-libs/libogg
media-libs/libpng
media-libs/libsdl
media-libs/libungif
media-libs/libvorbis
media-libs/musicbrainz
media-libs/netpbm
media-libs/svgalib
media-libs/t1lib
media-libs/taglib
media-libs/tiff
media-libs/win32codecs
media-libs/xine-lib
media-libs/xvid
media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs
media-plugins/gst-plugins-libpng
media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad
media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss
media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/cdparanoia
media-sound/esound
media-sound/grip
media-sound/lame
media-sound/madplay
media-sound/mpg123
media-sound/vorbis-tools
media-sound/xmms
media-video/ati-drivers
media-video/mplayer
net-analyzer/netcat
net-analyzer/netselect
net-analyzer/nmap
net-dns/ddclient
net-fs/samba
net-im/gaim
net-im/gaim-encryption
net-libs/libsoup
net-mail/autorespond
net-mail/courier-imap
net-mail/dcc
net-mail/evolution
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql
net-mail/f-prot
net-mail/qmail-scanner
net-mail/qmailadmin
net-mail/razor
net-mail/squirrelmail
net-mail/vpopmail
net-misc/curl
net-misc/ntp
net-misc/putty
net-misc/rdesktop
net-misc/tightvnc
net-misc/tsclient
net-nds/openldap
net-nds/portmap
net-print/cups
net-print/gnome-cups-manager
net-print/libgnomecups
net-www/apache
net-www/epiphany
net-www/lynx
net-www/mozilla
net-www/mozilla-firefox
net-www/netscape-flash
net-www/opera
sys-apps/apmd
sys-apps/cronbase
sys-apps/eject
sys-apps/help2man
sys-apps/hotplug
sys-apps/miscfiles
sys-apps/pciutils
sys-apps/tcp-wrappers
sys-apps/usbutils
sys-apps/vixie-cron
sys-boot/grub
sys-devel/gcc-config
sys-devel/gdb
sys-devel/gnuconfig
sys-devel/libperl
sys-devel/prelink
sys-fs/udev
sys-kernel/genkernel
sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources
sys-libs/gdbm
sys-libs/gpm
sys-libs/lib-compat
sys-libs/libcap
sys-libs/slang
x11-base/opengl-update
x11-base/xfree
x11-libs/gtk+
x11-libs/gtkglarea
x11-libs/gtksourceview
x11-libs/libwnck
x11-libs/openmotif
x11-libs/pango
x11-libs/qt
x11-libs/startup-notification
x11-libs/vte
x11-misc/ttmkfdir
x11-plugins/desklet-clock
x11-plugins/desklet-cornerxmms
x11-plugins/desklet-cpuinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-diskinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-goodweather
x11-plugins/desklet-ltvariations
x11-plugins/desklet-meminfo
x11-plugins/desklet-multitail
x11-plugins/desklet-networkinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-psidisplays
x11-plugins/desklet-psisensors
x11-plugins/desklet-starterbar
x11-plugins/desklet-sysinfo
x11-plugins/desklet-temperature
x11-plugins/desklet-weather
x11-terms/gnome-terminal
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme
x11-themes/gnome-themes
x11-themes/gtk-engines
x11-themes/gtk-engines-thinice
x11-themes/gtk-theme-switch
x11-wm/metacity
xfce-base/xfce4


all the gnome-base and kde-base packages and all the others that are contained in the metapackages should NOT be included if kde and gnome are already in there.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see what you mean. Um, that really shouldn't happen. What version of portage are you using?
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

latest non-masked. i'm sure that its by design in portage. you try using regenworld to get every package in there, and then pruneworld. probably get the same result.
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