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McVeigh
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:31 pm    Post subject: Help can't start install on scsi system Reply with quote

I'm finally getting around to reinstalling gentoo on this long weekend.
I went from gentoo (after it died) to mandrake beta.

I have an all scsi system now including cdrom

when I boot from the cd (just downloaded it today, verified md5 sum) I get a boot error and it tells me to press a key to retry and it then reboots.

this cd will start an install fine in my laptop.

is there a gentoo boot floppy? maybe that would get me started?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Help can't start install on scsi system Reply with quote

McVeigh wrote:
is there a gentoo boot floppy?

There isn't a Gentoo boot floppy, but there is phong's bootdisk howto. How's that?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried that, for some reason I cant use fdisk on my scsi drive.

just tried a knoppix bootable cd w/o success either
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK i'm stuck here. I'm guessing tomsrtbt won't work due to lack of scsi modules for it.

anyone know where i can get the module I need for a tekram DC-390U3 scsi controller (lsi chipset) can I just copy the crrent ones from my mandrake install or will it bork it?

I've googled all over the place and can't find them

scsi_mod
sr_mod
sd_mod
sym53c8xx

those are the scsi modules I need


any help is appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help can't start install on scsi system Reply with quote

McVeigh wrote:
I'm finally getting around to reinstalling gentoo on this long weekend.
I went from gentoo (after it died) to mandrake beta.

I have an all scsi system now including cdrom

when I boot from the cd (just downloaded it today, verified md5 sum) I get a boot error and it tells me to press a key to retry and it then reboots.

this cd will start an install fine in my laptop.

is there a gentoo boot floppy? maybe that would get me started?


McVeigh wrote:
OK i'm stuck here. I'm guessing tomsrtbt won't work due to lack of scsi modules for it.

anyone know where i can get the module I need for a tekram DC-390U3 scsi controller (lsi chipset) can I just copy the crrent ones from my mandrake install or will it bork it?

I've googled all over the place and can't find them

scsi_mod
sr_mod
sd_mod
sym53c8xx

those are the scsi modules I need


This is boot problem, your scsi bios will not looking for those modules during booting, make sure your scsi card can boot from cdrom or atleast is told to do so. These modules only required after the kernel booting sequence. Are you going to install gentoo to replace mandrake or install gentoo on other place, because you can boot to mandrake and start installing there.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how could I install from within mandrake?

I'm guessing bootup, then unmount most partitions?
then mount /mnt/gentoo and go from there?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McVeigh wrote:
how could I install from within mandrake?

There's a section on installing from within a running Linux distro in the alternate install guide.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Help can't start install on scsi system Reply with quote

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This is boot problem, your scsi bios will not looking for those modules during booting, make sure your scsi card can boot from cdrom or atleast is told to do so. These modules only required after the kernel booting sequence. Are you going to install gentoo to replace mandrake or install gentoo on other place, because you can boot to mandrake and start installing there.


Was thinking the same thing. It should at least load the kernel because that is completely independent of any subsystems. After that, considering the gentoo cd is ramdisk, the modules are in ram and able to be modprobed without a problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK i'm close

I used a usb cdrom just cause I was guessing, and it booted from it (my bios suports it)
that worked , it got into the install in ram , from there everything went as normal except I could not get the scsi cdrom mounted. so I had to do wget from ibiblio.org to get the image.

I'm bootstrapping now!! thanks everyone!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK back to square 1, I went through the whole install, upon reboot it dumps me to some shell, I can't do crap (noeditor available) so I'm trying again.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is that your in way over your head with Linux. Why not cut your teeth on a more user friendly distro, learn how linux works, then attempt to install Gentoo.

It seems to me that:
a. you don't know linux at all
b. you have no clue how to read directions
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:27 pm    Post subject: Use alternate install guide Reply with quote

Check out the alternate install guide from the Gentoo website. It really is just a matter of starting up your current distro, creating and formating partitions, then chroot'ing in to continue the install. Everything is documented in the guide.

I'm curious, how did you install mandrake from your scsi cdrom if you can't boot from it?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQLBoy wrote:
It seems to me that:
a. you don't know linux at all
b. you have no clue how to read directions

I fail to see how comments like this help the cause of getting McVeigh's system installed. Please refrain from insulting people publicly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FU sqlbitch :twisted:

I got the basics working, typing this from gentoo. even got RTCW working again :)

I ended up using some of the floppy install instructinos plus the basics plus some of my own. I did have a problem last night where X locked up on startup. this AM I tried booting into single user mode then going to runlevel 5 and it worked, and eth0 has a few bugs with it's default route on startup that I'll figure out.

thanks again!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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