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gazR n00b
Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject: linux css editor |
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ok, I've been dual booting various flavours of linux alongside winXP for about two years now and REALLY want to make the move to a linux-only system. The only catch is the one killer app that I use all the time on winXP, TopStyle Pro CSS editor.
Does anyone know of a good native linux css editor? I haven't tried topstyle with wine yet (I tend to use wine a a last resort because I don't seem to have much luck with it), but would much rather go native is possible.
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TheCoop Veteran
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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bluefish? jedit? _________________ 95% of all computer errors occur between chair and keyboard (TM)
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Ari Rahikkala Guru
Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ and $EDITOR? _________________ <laurentius> gentoo linux?
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slarti` Retired Dev
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 376 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Most web IDEs like bluefish, quanta and screem will have a built in css editor. Screem's is particularly good.
However, there's cssed, a dedicated GTK2 app for this job. app-editors/cssed. _________________ Gentoo/AMD64, shell-tools, net-mail, vim, recruiters
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Mirrorball Apprentice
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 235 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Ari Rahikkala wrote: | http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ and $EDITOR? |
This is my favorite but there's also Morphon CSS-Editor. |
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Stormy Eyes Veteran
Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 1064 Location: Watching God spit-shine my boots.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Can't you use vim? >^..^< |
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ciaranm Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 1719 Location: In Hiding
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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GVim is great. |
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AgenT Apprentice
Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 280
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of CSS, what spec (out of the four) does everyone prefer to use? Also, do all major browsers that support CSS support all four (IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Firebird, Konq, etc.)? |
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searcher Apprentice
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 175 Location: NL
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer to use the standards set up by the W3C, and nothing else. If you have an old style browser (<5) then you will need to update, but that might still be a good idea, even if you don't mind the horrible messed up sites in those old browsers. Anyone can get mozillafirebird, so no reason not to upgrade, even if it's IE 6.0. I refuse to work with the nightmare that is spacer cells and table layout, i'm really starting to like xhtml strict and css location stuff.
My main gripe is that IE 6.0 still doesn't support transparant png, and all IE developers should be shot on site for making the webpage developers still use .gif for `transparant' images. IE 6.0 renders most standards complient sites correctly, although it will sometimes mess up spacing. Everyone should be forced to use MozillaFirebird .
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Stormy Eyes Veteran
Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 1064 Location: Watching God spit-shine my boots.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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searcher wrote: | My main gripe is that IE 6.0 still doesn't support transparant png, and all IE developers should be shot on site for making the webpage developers still use .gif for `transparant' images. IE 6.0 renders most standards complient sites correctly, although it will sometimes mess up spacing. Everyone should be forced to use MozillaFirebird . |
RIght on. I don't do web design for a living, and I'm glad for that. As long as I only do it as a hobby, I can get away with designing for real browsers, and telling those who cling to IE to piss off. |
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jaska Bodhisattva
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 725 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yep it is always fun to tell those who praise IE then call everything else shit, nutscrape, etc to bugger off. Try pulling that stint when you make a living coding websites :/ |
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AgenT Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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searcher wrote: | I prefer to use the standards set up by the W3C, and nothing else. |
I think you misunderstood. What I was asking is, out of the four W3C standards.... And I totally agree with you on the IE/PNG issue. Micorsoft has all this money and they can't add proper png support. Yet people working for free and as a hobby have no problem with it. Bunch of incompetent and stupid developers must work Microsoft. But then again, whats new? |
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Stormy Eyes Veteran
Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 1064 Location: Watching God spit-shine my boots.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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jaska wrote: | Yep it is always fun to tell those who praise IE then call everything else shit, nutscrape, etc to bugger off. Try pulling that stint when you make a living coding websites :/ |
Hey, man, I know better. If I'm taking some guy's money, I do what he pays me to do. Either that, or I tell quote Johnny Paycheck* and start reading the want ads.
* "Take this job and shove it." |
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Mirrorball Apprentice
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 235 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think you misunderstood. What I was asking is, out of the four W3C standards.... |
Web design is just a hobby to me but I think it's best to use CSS1 as much as possible and CSS2 only when it's necessary. Mozilla (Firebird), Konqueror, and Opera support CSS2 *much better* than IE. I never used Safari but I read it's very good too. But Mozilla is still the best AFAIK. |
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kgraehl n00b
Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 54
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Mozilla Firebird has an extention that lets you edit any page's css and see it updated in real-time in a sidebar. I don't think there's anything that can beat that. Go Mozilla! |
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charlieg Advocate
Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 2149 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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searcher wrote: | My main gripe is that IE 6.0 still doesn't support transparant png |
Actually it can do. It's just really gay about it. _________________ Want Free games?
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Lews_Therin l33t
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 657 Location: Banned
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I do not understand...when I still used IE, it dealt with pngs just fine. It couldn't do mngs, though. |
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Deebster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 126
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Lews_Therin wrote: | I do not understand...when I still used IE, it dealt with pngs just fine. It couldn't do mngs, though. |
PNGs are meant to have a full alpha channel, but IE can't cope. The reason that this is bad is that it means all images (that aren't square) need to have anti-aliasing included in the image for the specific background.
As charlieg notes, there are workarounds, they're just really horrible. |
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bullfrog n00b
Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 65 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:26 am Post subject: |
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on the topic of editors, I like to use quanta. It was an easy move for me coming off of dreamweaver/homesite. the new quanta-3.2-rc1 is really nice. |
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AgenT Apprentice
Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 280
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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charlieg wrote: | searcher wrote: | My main gripe is that IE 6.0 still doesn't support transparant png |
Actually it can do. It's just really gay about it. |
I just read that and it seems that Microsoft just added a piss poor non-standard compliant hack. This means that IE does not support transparent PNG because you have to add a non-compliant hack to your webpage which might break other browsers. What a piss poor company! Or am I missing something? |
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