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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject: The -mm debate. Reply with quote

I think lovechild et al's original idea for the love-sources was to contain all the latest cutting edge stuff to improve desktop performance. So from that point of view, you have to expect that it may not be the most stable patch-set around, and some peoples milage may vary. Now that alot more people have heard of the power of love, more patch requests are going in and so there is more chance of breakage. That's not to say that I think it's a bad thing, it's just that you have to expect the odd problem now and then, and deal with it. As to mm sources, I think Andrew is also moving up a gear to test the latest and greatest features, as these will most likely move into the main stream kernel now he's maintainer of 2.6. Therefore, I guess, that's why were seeing of late, afew more problems with the mm patch-set (that said, I'm using mm with afew extra's used in love, and I don't have a problem). Anyways, I think there is an idea to move from mm to rml as a base to love, once these are ready.
Just my random thoughts ;-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thigs are great as they are, imo. The best thing is to do as in love2: have a 'broken-out' directory, so people can unapply what they wish... that was a really great idea, I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be great to see the libata patch in love sources...
Without it, I can't use my SATA drives.
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/jgarzik/libata/2.6.1-bk2-libata1.patch.bz2
This one applys cleanly to love3.

Forever love-sources :twisted:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sad not to be trying these sources again :(

Will you guys ever rethink, AMD 64 support for the love sources? :mrgreen: (queue the give me dual 248's and yes!)

Seriusly though, I know I could muddle through myself, but there are alot of people here that know what they are doing, and could help.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:
i'd like to know where to get the vm swappiness/
nicks' scheduler patches so that i may add them to
the kernel sources i use myself.


Autoregulate the vm_swappiness:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.1/patch-2.6.1-am-5

Nick's Scheduler Policy Patches:
http://www.kerneltrap.org/~npiggin/
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one suggestion: I read on the grsecurity site that the 2.6 patch is almost ready... I guess that if it's not too hard to integrate, we could put it in; people would then enable it only if the wished to... just a humble suggestion!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asimon wrote:
neenee wrote:
i'd like to know where to get the vm swappiness/
nicks' scheduler patches so that i may add them to
the kernel sources i use myself.


Autoregulate the vm_swappiness:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.1/patch-2.6.1-am-5

Nick's Scheduler Policy Patches:
http://www.kerneltrap.org/~npiggin/


hm.. i tried applying those patches; the swappiness
patch applied cleanly, but that others (rollup + select
+ clean) had various failed hunks.

am i missing something? perhaps i should prepare
the source somehow before patching?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I set up bootsplash on love-r3? I was following the howto instructions... I know love-r3 supposedly has the bootsplash patch already so I didn´t do that but I have to enable these things in the kernel

Code:

Code maturity level options  --->
    [*] Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers
Processor type and features  --->
    [*] MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support
Block Devices ->
    [*] Loopback device support
    [*] RAM disk support
    (4096)   Default RAM disk size
    [*] Initial RAM disk (initrd) support
Console Drivers ->
    [*] VGA text console
    [*] Video mode selection support
Console Drivers -> Frame-buffer support ->
    [*] Support for frame buffer devices
    [*] VESA VGA graphics console
    [*] Use splash screen instead of boot logo


I can find all of them except the last one, ¨Use splash screen instead of boot logo¨... how do I get that configured. It is not in the menu.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bootsplash option is under "Device Drivers -> Graphics support -> Bootsplash configuraton -> Bootup splash screen"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:
asimon wrote:
Nick's Scheduler Policy Patches:
http://www.kerneltrap.org/~npiggin/

hm.. i tried applying those patches; the swappiness
patch applied cleanly, but that others (rollup + select
+ clean) had various failed hunks.

am i missing something? perhaps i should prepare
the source somehow before patching?

You're not missing anything. The patches were made awhile ago and require manipulation to apply to current kernels.

Oh, the major thing they require is that CFQ be patched in first. (It's available in Andrew Morton's 'broken-out' directory. edit: you'll already have it if you're using 'mm')

edit again: Oh, and Nick has a newer scheduler roll-up out that isn't linked to on that page... I forget the URL for that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone else noticed premature swap use with Con's 'auto-swappiness' patch? I took it out and my problems went away.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

releases like 2.6.1-rc1-love3 and 2.6.1-love3 is the most stable kernels you can get, though, some ppl seems to have problems with mount of cd and iso files..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, does anybody know how to get a stack backtrace in case of hard lock-up? Oyu know that I get those with APIC compiled in (even without diconnect) with love2 and just want to get those debugging information to send to lkml.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedge_ wrote:
The bootsplash option is under "Device Drivers -> Graphics support -> Bootsplash configuraton -> Bootup splash screen"


I have no Bootsplash Configuration menu in Graphics Support... or anywhere for that matter. I tried making mrproper but it didn´t do anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mm4 is out.. 8O
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new to this kernel updating business coming from a distro which took most of the choice away. But, is this level of iteration normal. If so we should run a sweepstake to guess where we'll be at the end of the year.

My .02£ worth is 2.6.99-love999. Jokes aside someone must be doing a lot of work behind the scenes and should be thanked,

And, does the odd -even odd testing even stable apply to sub iterations such as 2.6.1 v 2.6.2

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And, does the odd -even odd testing even stable apply to sub iterations such as 2.6.1 v 2.6.


No, it only applies to the first bit (2.4, 2.5, 2.6, etc)

And yes, on occasion it is confusing!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can skip mm4. I just tried it and though mounting cds works for me again, it likes to ock up even more. Had 3 lock-ups in about 30min of testing. Enough for me...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PrakashKC wrote:
I think we can skip mm4. I just tried it and though mounting cds works for me again, it likes to ock up even more. Had 3 lock-ups in about 30min of testing. Enough for me...


Hmm, good idea. I only compiled mm3 yesterday..
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, as discussed in another thread I vote for *not* taking mm as base for love-sources anymore. Late devolpment (at least for me) shows increasing instability (which is no wonder as now all those patches ignored for 2.6.0 are stuffed inside). Perhpas we should make a poll of which sources to take as base. We had "vanilla", "Robert Love", "mjb" AFAIR. Any more?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about taking most of the mm patches and missing those out which cause problems?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you knew which patches cause problems, you could try to fix them at the same time...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just like to see pcmcia-cs compile and suspend to ram work =) anyone had luck with these two things in 2.6.1 love sources?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before trying to get STR (S3) to work you should try STD (S4). S4 works for me with minimal config, but S3 doesn't.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

STD is no problem here also... just that STR is better and faster.. but it doesn't work :\
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