Favorite *box window manager?

zojas · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:02 am Post subject: Favorite *box window manager?

I've been a hard-core blackbox user for a long time, and I'm thinking about trying out one of its descendants. If you post, please tell why you prefer the one you prefer (as opposed to the original blackbox).
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chrispy · Apprentice Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 228 Location: Tokyo

blackbox. my needs are simple

NuclearFusi0n · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 297

kahakai, god bless python scripts.
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Jeedo · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:07 am Post subject:

Fluxbox: Tabs just kick ass on a crowded root window like mine (no i'm not going to say dekstop)

thrasher6670 · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:36 am Post subject:

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zojas · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:18 pm Post subject:

does fluxbox support anti-aliased fonts too?
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lostSoul · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject:

xfce4

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charlieg · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:19 pm Post subject:

Fluxbox is an inferiorer ancestor of Kahakai. Kahakai has tabs, and inherited transparency/anti-aliased fonts from Waimea. Fluxbox has been rewritten from scratch just for such eye-candy features and is not even close to the flexibility of Kahakai which goes from strength to strength.

Add to that the fact that Kahakai is so actively developed. Fluxbox development seems to be in fits and spurts. There's been nothing since 0.9.6pre9 which was some months ago.

The Kahakai community is forming and mounting. Once a few more scripts come out and a few gdesklets get written that are aimed at Kahakai, you'll see it developing into a sumptious environment that'll be the modern day Enlightenment when it comes to showing off a Linux desktop.
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MatzeOne · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:57 pm Post subject:

Fluxbox
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garn · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 131

I use fluxbox on my gentoo box not for the tabs though...

I installed it because I wanted to try something new (I use icewm on mf LFS box and have been using it for years) and had heard good of flux. I tried the tabs but never really got into them. But the keybindings, the ones where you can have like Meta-F-W close the window (rather than just a modifier and a key you can have chains) now that's cool.

geekX · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject:

I use gnome 2.4, but if I had to use a lightweight window manager I would use openbox 3. Or maybe kahakai (I love python) but not Fluxbox. I don't understand why people like tabs - you can't see all the info at the same time anyway, so you might as well use multiple desktops/workspaces.
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Mystilleef · Guru Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 561 Location: Earth

GNOME. Why? Use it and figure it out yourself.
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semiSfear · Guru Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 302 Location: Adelaide, SA

Sorry, I don't wan't to be one of those but Gnome and KDE doesn't count as a Window Manager. It's more like a whole desktop environment. Metacity is the WM of Gnome, but you could as well use Sawfish or even Fluxbox as WM in Gnome.

I voted for Fluxbox, even thou I love Gnome (well, maybe not 2.4 that much thou)
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Mystilleef · Guru Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 561 Location: Earth

Silly me, I have the nasty habbit of mistaking window managers for desktop environments and vice-versa. I use Metacity, but it's not the best manager I've used. It needs some sandpaper and growing up to do.
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supernovus · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:10 pm Post subject:

I use Openbox3 now. I use it with a combination of the Gnome panel, and ROX Desktop... I used to use Fluxbox primarily, but it still doesn't interact properly with the Gnome/ROX stuff... I tried Kahakai, but it just didn't seem stable enough, and I wasn't feeling in a geeky enough mood to try to figure out how to add a minimize button to it...

So, until either Kahakai becomes a little easier to configure or Fluxbox gets full EWM standards support, I'm with Openbox3 for now.
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neenee · Veteran Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 1786

openbox v2 here, since when i run openbox v3
and run nautilus, right-click an archive and select
'extract to' from the menu, file-roller crashes.

michel v · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:55 pm Post subject:

Openbox 3 fits my needs just fine, I'm running it with Gnome.
I may switch to Kahakai once I get some time to figure out how to make it act nicely with Gnome and how to write .py scripts for it.

zenlunatic · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 312

I no longer see the need for tabs here, with larger and larger monitors etc, not to mention that most apps can handle tabs much better than the window manager can. Thanks for all the WM of the past for bringin tabs to where they are today, ie gaim and browsers.

My vote goes to Openbox 3. These guys have come far from just using blackbox code. Some of the new feature from flux, seem, well, dumb, like rounded corners on the menu. And in case you were wondering, the official irc channel is no longer on freenode.

zojas · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:22 pm Post subject:

I tried out kahakai, but couldn't figure out how to set up hotkeys! I guess I'll have to get on the irc channel, cause all the docs I can find are nearly worthless.

I just want to set up these mappings:

hbmartin · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:34 pm Post subject:

WindowMaker you insensitive clod.
But tabs, tabs sound so ... muttering into the distance...

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slarti` · Retired Dev Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 376 Location: UK

Hmmm, I'm torn between a number of WMs.

Kahakai is an incredible project, I hope it goes a long way. But I don't have the time or knowledge to really get in to scripting it at the moment. I'd like to see some compliance with the standard --replace option really...

Fluxbox. Yes tabs are nice. But I think viewports/multiple desktops are fine, monitors are getting bigger, and tabs should be left to the applications themselves.

Openbox3. I doubt I'd run this by itself, but with one openbox3 --replace it becomes by default WM for all DE's.. coupled with OBConf it is the perfect replacement for metacity imo.

Metacity/GNOME. Gnome is very nice indeed. IMO it is far less bloated that KDE, and it runs noticeably faster. Although there are slightly more KDE/Qt apps around, there are some real class projects using GTK+ 2.

So - I use GNOME + metacity/openbox3 at the moment. Kahakai will become my new WM as soon as (IMO) it becomes more useable for someone who doesn't want to get stuck in with some scripting. Within a few releases for sure.

PS It's not that I'm not trying to learn to use scripting languages, I just suck

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shm · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:23 am Post subject:

I'm suprised kahakai hasn't gotten more votes.. oh well, perhaps when it fleshes out more.

I voted for KDE though. Six months ago I would have said waimea, a year ago I would have said fluxbox, and a year and a half ago I would have said GNOME/Sawfish
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