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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

irf2003, see

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aplesch wrote:
irf2003, see

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt

I would think that when it is offcially released, it will be
announced on the front page of the Gentoo site, also,
notwithstanding the later, the gentoo 2004.0 live cd's/stages are nowhere to be found on any of the distro mirrors.
so it is a reasonable assumption that it has yet to be released.
i may be wrong of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The maintainers put up a notice on the front page that there a technical difficulties with the mirror system. Strange, no LiveCDs and only hardened stages on mirrors.

Will the release stages be the same as the current ones on the experimental oregonstate server ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, no matter about these last minute difficulties we are experiencing - we finally made it. :)

I want to thank all people that donated their time to test the stages and LiveCDs. Without you, we wouldn't have been able to kill nearly all the bugs that arised during the beta-testing process. Of course, not all bugs could be eleminated but we will try to fix them as soon as possible :wink:

The work goes on. As soon as the release has spread over all mirrors, new bug-reports will be filed. The task is now to calm down for a few days and then step over into 2004.1's release process - we always try to get better, so expect the Best from the next regards.

A big "Thanks for donating your time, folks" ! :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beejay: if it's out where can i get it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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beejay: if it's out where can i get it?


We had some problems with the Master-mirror which prevented us from really having a release yesterday. :evil: These Problems are solved now. Last time I checked (30 Minutes ago) everything except the stages and the p4-GRP-set was on the mirrors. :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the thread is going to die now, not sticky
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beejay wrote:

I want to thank all people that donated their time to test the stages and LiveCDs. Without you, we wouldn't have been able to kill nearly all the bugs that arised during the beta-testing process. Of course, not all bugs could be eleminated but we will try to fix them as soon as possible :wink:



And thank you for allowing us to test it early and being able to support you in one way or another.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been able to start a fresh gentoo installation on a scsi-only system.
I've tried 2 tekram scsi controllers, DC-390F and DC-390U3W.
Tricked it once, a year ago by adding and booting from a 1.2 (EDIT) LiveCD in a IDE-CDROM, then manually insmod'ing the proper modules. It would be great to install gentoo onto a scsi-only system without the hassle of adding an extra IDE-CDROM.

The 2004.0LiveCD does boot (bios INT13), but it seems unable to detect my scsi controller and/or mount my SCSI-CDROM.
It drops me to an ash shell, where I'm completly lost.
Have also tried the experimental LiveCD w/ a 2.6 kernel with "gentoo doscsi" bootoption without success so far.

Hardware:
Tekram DC-390U3W scsi controller (overkill, I know)
Plextor Plexwriter PX-W1210S
9 GB Seagate scsi disk
440 BX Based MS-6163 MB (bios from 2000) + Celeron 433 + 64 MB RAM

last boot messages are:
Code:

STEP 3: Mounting necessary filesystems per boot options
Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /newroot/dev
---- Attempting to mount CD -- /newroot/dev/cdroms/*
---- Attempting to mount CD -- /newroot/dec/ide/cd*
Dropping to shell so you can fix your shit


BusyBox v1.00-pre3 (2004.02.04-19:01+0000 ) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/ash: can't access tty: job control turned off
/ #


Code:
/ #lsmod

usb-storage
hid
uhci
usbcore


IIRC LiveCD's > 1.4 have kernels with built-in scsi* modules, but autodetection seems to fail.
Can somebody please tell me how to continue installation on a SCSI-only system ?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure, but does it actually say
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Dropping to shell so you can fix your shit

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what is teh module for tekram scsi card? can you modprobe it?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
not sure, but does it actually say
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Dropping to shell so you can fix your shit

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what is teh module for tekram scsi card? can you modprobe it?

:-) Yes, it says shit

IIRC sym53c8xx_2 is the correct module. It's not located in tmpfs (RAM)
/lib/modules/kernel/2.4.24-xfs-r0/scsi/ so I can't manually modprobe it. I guess its built into the 2.4.24 kernel.

It could be located on the livecd zisofs filesystem, but then again I'm not able to mount it using a SCSI-CDROM ... :twisted:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy.. I can't believe it says that!

anyway I have no idea.. looks like you might need to use an ide cdrom :?

what about knoppix? have you tried it?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
what about knoppix? have you tried it?


Downloading ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.3-2004-02-16-EN.iso now.
If that doesn't do it, Ill buy another IDE-CDROM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe.. I think it should work ;)

one thing, don't forget to mount /dev before you chroot in..

other than that it should all be following the normal guides..

have fun!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've never been able to start a fresh gentoo installation on a scsi-only system.


I have a similar system at my job. A Dell PowerEdge 4200 which is a scsi only system. With LiveCD 1.4 the doscsi option halt with detection of aic7xxx_old. With the 2004.0 LiveCD using the doscsi option the loading halts here
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step 5a2: filling system

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem, I have a server wich run as gateway for home network wich is 5 PC`s. Gentoo 2004.0 not include iptables . I can`t install gentoo in the same time with sharing PPPOE conection. How can be posible to customise universal LiveCD to include iptables ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudrii wrote:
I have a problem, I have a server wich run as gateway for home network wich is 5 PC`s. Gentoo 2004.0 not include iptables . I can`t install gentoo in the same time with sharing PPPOE conection. How can be posible to customise universal LiveCD to include iptables ?


so what is serving your PPPOE internet connection at the moment?

You can do an install without needing the internet using GRP packages..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
what about knoppix? have you tried it?


Knoppix didn't detect it either. The module was not listed in expert mode. However it suggested loading a module from floppy, but my system has no FDD
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IIRC sym53c8xx_2 is the correct module. It's not located in tmpfs (RAM) /lib/modules/kernel/2.4.24-xfs-r0/scsi/ so I can't manually modprobe it. I guess its built into the 2.4.24 kernel.


I really can't fix this shit. SCSI controller support seems to be modular
Code:
/ #/sbin/cat /proc/config | grep CONFIG_SCSI_SYM*
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53c8xx_2=m
.

But this module is not available in tmpfs. Is there another module I'm not aware of ?

Generic scsi cdrom & hd support seems to be built-in
Code:
/ #/sbin/cat /proc/config | grep DEV_SD*
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y


Code:
/ #/sbin/cat /proc/config | grep DEV_SG*
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
mudrii wrote:
I have a problem, I have a server wich run as gateway for home network wich is 5 PC`s. Gentoo 2004.0 not include iptables . I can`t install gentoo in the same time with sharing PPPOE conection. How can be posible to customise universal LiveCD to include iptables ?


so what is serving your PPPOE internet connection at the moment?

You can do an install without needing the internet using GRP packages..


I HAVE 2 ftp SERVER RUNNING IN BACK and WEB server PORT foarwarding so................. ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
looks like you might need to use an ide cdrom


adding a ide-cdrom to my scsi system did it. My shit is fixed, and life is good.

Borrowed an ide-cdrom (ASUS DVD-E616), connected it as master on IDE0. Changed BIOS bootorder to CDROM,C,A and booted the 2004.0LiveCD from IDE-cdrom without options.

Livecd was automatically mounted as expected. After about 80 annoying seconds of DHCP broadcasting timeout (not connected yet), I got a decent livecd prompt.

Code:

modprobe sym53c8xx_2

sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking
sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
sym0: SCSI BUS has been reset.
sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking
sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
sym1: SCSI BUS has been reset.
blk: queue c3d63b74, I/O limit 1048575Mb (mask 0xffffffffff)
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST39140W          Rev: 1206
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
blk: queue c3d63c74, I/O limit 1048575Mb (mask 0xffffffffff)
  Vendor: PLEXTOR   Model: CD-R   PX-W1210S  Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
blk: queue c3d63d74, I/O limit 1048575Mb (mask 0xffffffffff)

Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sym0:0:0:phase change 6-7 11@02382f84 resid=2.
SCSI device sda: 17783240 512-byte hdwr sectors (9105 MB)


It's time to install, going prebuilt GRP this time...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case with the Dell server, Gentoo is currently installed, but I have to use Knoppix CD which worked without problems. I would like to help fix the problem I got (mentioned 3 or 4 posts above) but my linux experience is not that good. So any help or guide would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudrii wrote:
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mudrii wrote:
I have a problem, I have a server wich run as gateway for home network wich is 5 PC`s. Gentoo 2004.0 not include iptables . I can`t install gentoo in the same time with sharing PPPOE conection. How can be posible to customise universal LiveCD to include iptables ?


so what is serving your PPPOE internet connection at the moment?

You can do an install without needing the internet using GRP packages..


I HAVE 2 ftp SERVER RUNNING IN BACK and WEB server PORT foarwarding so................. ?


sorry just wasn't sure why you needed iptables if you have a gateway already..?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gateway and firewall runs on Debian but I try to change it to Gentoo and do not wont to stop network acces on other PC`s. If iptables is included is much easy to make job in the same time with workink net in back. ;-)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaah k.. I didnt realise you were putting gentoo on teh router!

thought you had a router, and another pc to put gentoo on, hence I was confused :?

u might have to build a custom cd - what about knoppix? does it come with iptables?
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