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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:34 pm    Post subject: Text Editor Recommendation Reply with quote

I don't mean to start a text editor holy war here:
What's a good gnome text editor that is
    lightweight
    tabbed
    syntax highlighting that I specify

Also, what features should I look for in a text editor?
I've been a jedit user, and it's great, I'm just wondering if there's a good gnome application out there
By the way, I'm using this to also edit php and html in addition to java, is there a good html editor that I should use, and if so, why (over the text editor)

Thanks in advance everyone!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know if you've tried gedit (comes with gnome, under accessories)
i find it a nice simple text editor and i use it a lot for simple stuff.

If i do php i usually use gedit or bluefish
if i do java i usually use eclipse
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply sephiroth

Gedit: In windows, the files are terminated in UNIX style, is there a way to change that?
Also, CSS and PHP aren't highlightable style :-(

What makes bluefish good (better for php than gedit)? When I used it I couldn't stand the fact that to indent a block there was no shift + tab (it's control plus .)

For java, eclipse I understand :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for php amd html i use Quanta 3.2 beta2.
i never tryed bluefish, i´ll will compile it when i get home.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, Quanta's a KDE application
I'll install it if there's a compelling reason to do so
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SciTE!!

emerge scite

It's a beautiful editor. It really rocks, and needs more publicity (than it already gets at least) :P

It's full of GTK2 goodness as well..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the post sonic!
To anybody: Why sciTE over gedit?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find SciTE to be faster than gEdit. It has a toggle-able toolbar and status bar, you can compile/make from within it, it has folding, did I mention fast?

See for yourself

Fully detachable menus, erm, speed, functionality.. etc...

gEdit could barely be described as a code editor.. it has no syntax highlighting unless through a plugin as far as I know. It has nowhere near as many features as SciTE.

It is only a small tarball, emerge it, see for yourself ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gedit does have syntax highlighting, but not for all the languages I want, and I'm not sure there are plugins for more languages. When you say "you can compile/make from within sciTE", does that mean you can bring up a command prompt (like in Kate, a text editor I really like, but it's not gnome), or not.
Also, what is folding?

Thanks for all your valuable comments everyone
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folding is when each bit of indented text can be folded in, so you can get a good outline of the code easily.

You can see the + / - in the screenshot?

SciTE can do syntax highlighting on:

Ada, Apache Config, Assembler, Avenue, Baan, Batch, Bullant, C / C++, C#, CSS, Difference, Eiffel, Errorlist, Fortran, Hypertext, Java, JavaScript, TeX, Lisp, Lot, Lout, Lua, Matlab, Makefiles, MMIXAL, crontab, NSIS, Pascal, Perl, PHP, PLSQL, SciTE's own properties format, PostScript, POV-Ray SDL, Python, Ruby, Shell languages, SQL, TCL, VB, VBScript, XML, and YAML.

happy? :D

It has a fullscreen mode, which is impressive for big projects.

It can convert line endings with a single keypress.

It has a built in paned command line too.

It supports expanding abbreviations, completing words, bookmarks, quick hotkeys for setting up comments, can export to HTML, PDF, RTF, LaTeX and XML.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm convinced enough to try it out!
/me emerges scite

I'll let you know if I like it or if I think it's crap, and if so, you can tell me I'm wrong ;-)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either sciTE doesn't have a tabbed interface or I can't find it :-(
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of, just without the tabs :P

Try choosing View --> Toolbar and turning that on. The two buttons on the far right scroll between buffers. Try opening one file, then another, and using those two buttons to switch between the two buffers..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I see. That does work, but I think it's nicer to be able to see all your open documents and click on the one you need. Oh well, maybe next version :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SciTE is really great.
Powerful and flexible enough so that I use it for all of my coding.
Still small and fast enough so that I can use it for any text editing.
Yay! :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply Anior!

Another reason not to use gedit
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To have tabs in SciTE, just edit your ~/.SciTEUser.properties so

tabbar.visible=1
tabbar.hide.one=0

You can refer to http://www.scintilla.org/SciTEDoc.html for more options
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slightly off topic, but has anyone tried 'ted'?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason Kidd:
Thanks for the tip, however, I edited the Global Options File (as root) and added the change to the previously empty User Options File with no tabbed results
Further, whenever I exit and return none of my options do not appear to be saved (view line numbers, toolbars, etc)

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mallrats wrote:
Jason Kidd:
Thanks for the tip, however, I edited the Global Options File (as root) and added the change to the previously empty User Options File with no tabbed results
Further, whenever I exit and return none of my options do not appear to be saved (view line numbers, toolbars, etc)

Any ideas?


2 things:
1) make sure your preferences are not commented with a #
2) changing things outside of the preference files doesn't make changes persist
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In sciTE: When opening up a document that ends with html, html is syntax highlighted, but how do I turn on html highlighting for a file not ending in html (It's not in my list of languages in sciTE)
Also, is there a way to show tabs but not spaces (of the show whitespaces preference?)
Otherwise, very solid editor
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx j kidd, your tip makes scite my new favorite editor
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to have tabs working, you also have to add

Code:

buffers = some number > 1


in the global settings file, this option is disabled.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoohoo vim all the way, with screen or something to provide tabs, ultra lightweight...i'll be quiet now
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, (g)Vim certainly fits your requirements. Take a look at the scripts at www.vim.org to get some nice html editing features.
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