base-layout, alpine style

[timkenhan]

Hi everyone!

The other day, I was trying out Alpine Linux and I was impressed by how it handles atomicity of the system thru externally building a complete system from nothing.

Among many things, what caught my eyes was its base layout packages. It comes simply as yet another package, which pulls necessary stuff like libc, core utilities, and shadow.

On the other hand, I was looking at the way Gentoo implement its base system thru the stage3 image. Compared to Alpine's base-layout package, there's no clear indication of its version except for its timestamp, which seems to be updated every week with no clear indication of what was changed.

I like to rebuild my system every now and then, I noticed some core parts of the system was put together in a hacky way. Is there a chance we can tidy these part, at least gradually?

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this. Lemme know if I need to move elsewhere with this question.

[Banana]

What is your goal?

The stage tarballs are build regularly and while using them and following the install instructions, the provided packages are updated.
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[timkenhan]

My goal would be to have (somewhat) reproducible build for container setting, kinda like Alpine. I figured Gentoo has a lot of powerful potential for this kind of use case. I mean, not only you get to pick exactly the packages to deploy, you'd also get to decided what's in every package and how it's built.

[GDH-gentoo]

Gentoo's similar concept would be the contents of the @system set, rather than the contents of the stage3 archive at any given time.

Big difference, Alpine is versioned, Gentoo is rolling release.
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