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Taigo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 Nov 2022 Posts: 105 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:21 pm Post subject: valve appreciation thread |
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Without Valve Linux gaming would have been nowhere where it is now.
Steam's proton has made gaming on Linux incredibly easy and smooth,
I can run pretty much any game from my steam library which is mostly single-player games.
I did hear that most multiplayer shooters don't work but that's mostly because
they let you install malware anti-cheat inside of your kernel. I was really
surprised today when I ran a ray-tracing game completely smooth
without issues using proton, i didn't knew we where that far already.
I'm really grateful Valve got the monopoly on PC gaming and not some
shady tech giant like Microshit or Google, imagine how bad things would
be in gaming if that where the case. |
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pietinger Moderator
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 5036 Location: Bavaria
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Taigo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 Nov 2022 Posts: 105 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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So by developing the kernel to make it better for gaming also made it more useful for other things, interesting.
Gaming on Linux really has come far. The only thing that I see Linux mostly struggle with is kernel level anti-cheat which in my opinion should not exist in the first place.
I also which to see better support for VR, if VR works well I can finally say goodbye to my dual-boot setup with a debloated binbows version. |
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Chiitoo Administrator
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 2718 Location: Here and Away Again
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I do appreciate the Linux native client of Steam (still using the first "install" (unpacked copy) of the client from 2013, though I guess every piece of it has changed by now... hmmm, no, some data there still last modified in 2013, but I suppose those files might not even be shipped any longer), and any Linux native game that that helped pave the way for.
I do, however, have mixed feelings about Proton.
While I have been using Wine since 2010 when I started using Linux (and Gentoo Linux), and most likely would not have been able to fully jump into Linux without, Proton has the side effect of actually reducing Linux support... in a way. That is, I'm quite sure a lot of game developers who even thought of creating a /native/ Linux build, instead just tests that their creation works with Proton (or just hopes it does).
I've made it a point to myself to only buy games with native Linux support, unless it's a very nostalgic title to me or something like that. I'm, sure that'll show 'em. :]
Speaking of anti-cheat, yes they are evil, and at least several of them also do support Linux, but of course then the game developer (if they get to decide) needs to support Linux as well.
In the end, with what they've been doing with Steam itself, and the mixed feelings about Proton, my appreciation to Valve has been waning... but perhaps things will improve from here to the future! _________________ Kindest of regardses. |
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Clad in Sky l33t
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 894 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, OP.
Valve has been great for us Linux gamers.
And while I do understand the mixed feelings about Proton that Chiitoo has, I also doubt that without Proton we would have more native Linux games. _________________ Kali Ma
Now it's autumn of the aeons
Dance with your sword
Now it's time for the harvest |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54572 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | ... grateful [foo] got the monopoly ... |
That has to be an oxymoron _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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mrbassie l33t
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 821 Location: over here
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | Quote: | ... grateful [foo] got the monopoly ... |
That has to be an oxymoron |
Careful Ned, those identifying as oxen might be allowed to nestle beneath the otherkin umbrella or one of the other ones, raincoats, knitted balclavas or somesuch. I personaly identify as the oxy 10 zit remedy from the 1990's adverts on telly but that doesn't count as a protected class yet because I went to a trade school. Also despite how many people tell me I'm moronic, a moran or a Moran I refuse to accept it beacuse I know better so I can't officially take offense for those two reasons yet.. _________________ I spent a christmas in Vienna twenty something years ago. It was a beautiful city. Everyone was so friendly. |
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