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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 3:09 pm    Post subject: Dolphin not offering move? [Solved] Reply with quote

Hi

Updated KDE apps, now when I drag file from one side to other in split window, it only offers "copy" or "link here". No "move". is this just me or a bug? Tried to find if some setting was broken but could not find anything ...

Dolphin Version 23.04.2

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am up to date (stable) and cannot reproduce that issue here. The move option is still available for me. I would rule out a configuration issue -- backup/rename ~/.config/dolphinrc to ~/.config/dolphinrc.bak and relaunch dolphin to see if the issue persists.
If issue persists, try with a new user. You can also move or rename the entire .config folder in your home directory and then logout & log in again to see if the issue persists with a clean configuration. You can restore the .config directory afterwards to its original state.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It depends by the file permissions adn the target directory permissions

"move" action assume that the file will be removed from the source directory to the new directory

If your user doesn't have the write permissions for the file you're going to move , dolphin can't move to the new target directory

example : moving the file (root's owner) to your $HOME direcrory.
only copy or link action is available by dolphin in this case ("cut" option isn't available)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you sabayonino. It never occurred to me user might be trying to move files without permissions. You might be correct in your assessment.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I want to move files between folders in my own directory tree

In particular
from /home/ian/1web/keyboard-design/klajson/
to /home/ian/1web/keyboard-design/newlayouts/

It worked as expected until I updated this morning.

Have since rebooted but problem persists.

I tried holding Shift while dragging across, which produced this alert on the target side:

"The file or folder Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying does not exist."

Never seen that before.

I don't know if it is related or not, but after update some Konsole settings were also broken (no menu items at top, and tabs switched from bottom to top).

If I right click on file in source window, there is a "move to" option but that involves using the file dialogue instead of just dragging across like I have been doing for years.

Revdep-rebuild thinks all is okay.

Hence I am confused :-)

I tried removing the config file but that did not help.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when you create a new user, log in and try the same process with two files/directories that you have write permissions for?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other people have reported related (but not identical) issues before:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463136
so there's hope.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rab0171610 wrote:
Other people have reported related (but not identical) issues before:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463136
so there's hope.


Ah, thanks. This may be culprit.

Code:

Then I started checking for failing services, and noticed that xdg-document-portal.service was failing because I hadn't had the fuse module enabled in my kernel.


Guess it's time I got around to updating kernel anyway (currently still on 5.10.27)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iandoug wrote:

Code:

Then I started checking for failing services, and noticed that xdg-document-portal.service was failing because I hadn't had the fuse module enabled in my kernel.



Thank you for the tip. After the Update from dolphin a few days ago i was able to copy files on local computer, but i can not upload files from computer to my nas via samba, which was working in the past. After enable Fuse in Kernel it seems to work again :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDE Plasma issues in Gentoo is trickier than other distros as the users modify the kernel, use flags, build options and may not necessarily get all the right packages installed. I am glad you got it fixed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated kernel to 6.1.41, enabled Fuse, and now working as before.

Thanks for all the inputs. :-)

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