alias dont work, dont read my .bashrc .bash_profile

Qubax

i copied my .bashrc und .bashprofile to /etc/skel before adding a user
i now that they are working cause i copied them from my root directory, but after adding a user and logging in with the new user, it seem that bash don't read in ~ the .bash* files, cause my aliases are not working

the users can use the commands, so the alias should be possible to be executed
the .bash* files are owned by the users, that should not cause a problem

so what can i do?

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067

Do you use a graphical login manager (xdm/kdm/gdm)?
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Qubax · Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 9:54 pm Post subject:

no, just terminal and fluxbox, without any *dm

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

/etc/profile will not get executed for non-login shells. You can put your aliases in your .bashrc file to ensure that they get set or put it in /etc/bashrc and do:

Qubax · Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2002 4:15 pm Post subject:

i already have my aliases in my ~/.bashrc -> ?
what's the difference between login and nonlogin -shells? cause i "login" at initlevel 3 without a *dm as user, so i thought bash should read these files in my home directory

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

A login shell is basically that: one which you get when you log into the console, do "bash --login", etc. If you just do "bash" at the command prompt the new shell that is launched is a non-login shell. A non-login shell will not source /etc/profile, .bash_profile, etc., but will look at your .bashrc. In addition, you have non-interactive shells that are invoked when a script is executed by bash using the "#!/bin/bash" construct. This shell (when launched without a --login option) will execute the file specified by a variable, BASH_ENV. This is typically exported to ~/.bashrc in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile. In addition, when bash is launched as 'sh' (which is a symlink), it does not read the .bashrc file.

Coming back to your issue, you may want to check whether you have chown'ed the files to the user after copying them over from /root if you did this as root. In addition, check /etc/passwd to see whether your shell is set to /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh or /bin/tcsh. If you login at the console as a user, the .bash_profile file will be executed. It should contain a line like this:

Qubax · Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2002 8:28 pm Post subject:

mine contains

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

The line itself is not syntactically correct (assuming it is not a cut and paste error). This will work:

Qubax · Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 12:03 pm Post subject:

ok, my post was a bit "unclear"
in my user .bashrc there is the first code you wrote

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

It should work then. Can you verify that it does not work if you:

- go to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F<n> where n=1...6)
- login as the user
- do not do startx, etc. Instead do: 'alias' and see whether the aliases are shown.

Also, can you edit the .bashrc file when logged in as a user?

Qubax · Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2002 6:30 pm Post subject:

got it working
the shell at creating the user was missing. i thought bash would be default and did not thought of it much more, but today i had a look at /etc/passwd and swa that the shell for my user was missing. so i added the user and everything worked. i tried it out a second time with an other user. this time the box gave me an empty .bashrc, but adding my aliases it works.

thx and sorry for this bad mistake
as punishment i'll write down :don't trust default

Naan Yaar · Bodhisattva Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549

If you do: