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Ionen
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| figueroa wrote: | | That's enough. It boils down to polkit and udisks, both of which provide functionality I need/want. If only they didn't chain up to need spidermonkey, I could do away with python2.7. I don't have anything against spidermonkey. Upstream should get their act together; or I'm looking forward to duktape. |
If by upstream you mean mozilla, they removed py:2.7 requirement with about all their >=78 products around July. Gentoo updated ebuilds in the last few days to remove the dep (firefox, thunderbird, spidermonkey), but they're still in ~testing given kinda early and needs testing.
So with ~testing >=polkit-0.118, which depend on spidermonkey:78, you don't need python2.7 (but you do need llvm+rust... although nowadays many have rust due to librsvg, and llvm due to mesa, packages that need those will just keep coming). |
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figueroa
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, by upstream I meant spidermonkey, but if ~polkit requires spidermonkey without python 2.7 dependency, I'll try it:
I've put in /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords | Code: |
=sys-auth/polkit-0.118 ~amd64
=dev-lang/spidermonkey-78.3.0 ~amd64 |
With that done, I need to reboot to see how it works, since I'm not sure what starts polkitd.
I'll still be left with dev-libs/gjs-1.64.4 (latest version) and it's hard depency on spidermonkey-68.
I'll be back!
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Ionen
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| figueroa wrote: | | I'll still be left with dev-libs/gjs-1.64.4 (latest version) and it's hard depency on spidermonkey-68. |
Not familiar with the package but looks like upstream already migrated to spidermonkey:78 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gjs/-/issues/329), guess it's up to gentoo to bring gjs-1.66 in now that :78 is there, I don't see an open bug for it so no idea on ETA.Good luck  |
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figueroa
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Ionen wrote: | | figueroa wrote: | | I'll still be left with dev-libs/gjs-1.64.4 (latest version) and it's hard depency on spidermonkey-68. |
Not familiar with the package but looks like upstream already ported to spidermonkey:78 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gjs/-/issues/329), guess it's up to gentoo to bring gfs-1.66 in.Good luck |
I'm back. Everything seems to be normal. polkit-0.118 loaded and is doing its thing happily.
| Code: | $ sudo grep polk /var/log/everything/current
Oct 01 14:03:20 [dbus-daemon] [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' requested by ':1.13' (uid=1000 pid=4092 comm="lxpolkit " label="kernel") (using servicehelper)
Oct 01 14:03:20 [polkitd] Started polkitd version 0.118
Oct 01 14:03:22 [polkitd] Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
Oct 01 14:03:22 [polkitd] Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d
Oct 01 14:03:22 [polkitd] Finished loading, compiling and executing 1 rules
Oct 01 14:03:22 [polkitd] Acquired the name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 on the system bus
Oct 01 14:03:22 [polkitd] Registered Authentication Agent for unix-session:2 (system bus name :1.13 [lxpolkit], object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.utf8)
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So, I'm left with the following dependency tree:
| Code: | $ emerge -cpv =python-2.7.18-r2
Calculating dependencies... done!
dev-lang/python-2.7.18-r2 pulled in by:
dev-lang/spidermonkey-68.12.0 requires dev-lang/python:2.7
$ equery d dev-lang/spidermonkey:68
* These packages depend on dev-lang/spidermonkey:
dev-libs/gjs-1.64.4 (dev-lang/spidermonkey:68)
# equery d gjs
* These packages depend on gjs:
app-crypt/libsecret-0.20.3 (introspection ? >=dev-libs/gjs-1.32)
gnome-extra/gnome-characters-3.34.0 (>=dev-libs/gjs-1.50)
(I could live without gnome-characters, but I like it.)
$ equery d libsecret
* These packages depend on libsecret:
app-crypt/pinentry-1.1.0-r3 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
app-text/evince-3.36.7 (gnome-keyring ? >=app-crypt/libsecret-0.5)
gnome-base/gvfs-1.44.1 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
media-video/vlc-3.0.11.1 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-3.36.3 (>=app-crypt/libsecret-0.7)
(gnome-keyring is only set for pinentry.)
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pinentry I need for gnupg, and pinentry depends on libsecret, so bottom line, I'll be waiting for an update to dev-libs/gjs that doesn't depend on spidermonkey-68. Besides that I WANT gnome-disk-utility. Almost there, and I CAN wait. Happy.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Ionen wrote: | | Not familiar with the package but looks like upstream already migrated to spidermonkey:78 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gjs/-/issues/329), guess it's up to gentoo to bring gjs-1.66 in now that :78 is there, I don't see an open bug for it so no idea on ETA. |
I filed bug. https://bugs.gentoo.org/746170
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figueroa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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On my x86 server (does have XFCE, LXDE installed, just not used, no display manager) after adding to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords: | Code: |
=sys-auth/polkit-0.118 ~amd64
=dev-lang/spidermonkey-78.3.0 ~amd64 |
and updating, I was able to deplean my way free of Python-2.7.
| Code: | # emerge -cp
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Calculating dependencies... done!
>>> Calculating removal order...
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
dev-python/wxpython
selected: 3.0.2.0
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/spidermonkey
selected: 60.5.2_p0-r4
protected: none
omitted: 78.3.0
net-libs/libproxy
selected: 0.4.15-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/beautifulsoup
selected: 4.9.1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pyopengl
selected: 3.1.0
protected: none
omitted: none
virtual/libffi
selected: 3.3_rc0
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/soupsieve
selected: 2.0.1
protected: none
omitted: none
media-libs/freeglut
selected: 3.2.1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/python
selected: 2.7.18-r2
protected: none
omitted: 3.7.9 3.8.5
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EDIT - ADDED: Rather than add another post, I'll just add, here, that I did the same with my amd64 desktop. Main difference is that I had to remove gome-characters which depended on gjs which depended on a version of spidermonkey that depends on python-2.7. I like Gnome-Characters and find it useful. When gjs is updated so it's depency tree is free of python 2.7 I'll add it again.
ADDED at 10/3/2020 0004: gnome-extra/gucharmap is a suitable substitute for gnome-extra/gnome-characters. I don't know how I missed that.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Would you please allow my asking what´s the point of a big move towards removing python 2.7 if there´re packages that still need it?
Why not clean out or replace each package that pulls it in first? |
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figueroa
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Because Python-2.7 is deprecated, no longer supported, subject to removal. See the new news item about Python-2.7.
I have a mature (old) remote x86 server where VirtualBox 5 is mission critical, and it depends on Python 2. I've put VirtualBox and related ebuilds into local repository. I'm about to do that with =python-2.7.18-r2. It's not a good long-tern solution, but will let me nurse that puppy along for a few more years.
Otherwise, I'm now Python 2 free on my local amd64 desktop and x86 server. The future calls.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| This was a rhetorical question. |
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Upstream the new gjs-1.66 is described adding a bunch of new js script capabilities to gnome. I wonder if current gnome-3.36.5 could run using an updated gjs-1.66 instead of gjs-1.64?
Do we have to wait for the next gnome-38 release on Gentoo for this ? |
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EasterParade
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My apologies for being impolite. I don´t think removing Python 2.7 is unreasonable; on the contrary.
Python 2.7 is dead and it is common knowledge for a long time now.
I question the way we try to remove it without actually removing it causing chaos on the system.
Look, I tried to using the method described in the news item.
But Python 2.7 is back again like a zombie and I have this, taking certifi as an example:
| Code: | emerge -pv certifi
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] dev-python/certifi-10001::gentoo USE="-test" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_7 (-pypy3) -python3_6 -python3_8 (-python3_9)" 0 KiB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
dev-python/certifi:0
(dev-python/certifi-10001-r1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) USE="-test" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_7 (-pypy3) -python3_6 -python3_8 (-python3_9)" conflicts with
>=dev-python/certifi-2016.9.26[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_8(-),-python_single_target_python3_9(-)] required by (dev-python/setuptools-46.4.0-r3:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="-test" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_7 (-pypy3) -python3_6 -python3_8 (-python3_9)"
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And please do not make me believe that it´s my fault.
I refer hearby to my question again: what´s the point. It´s inconsistent.
If you want Python 2.7 disappear remove it alltogether or leave it where it is. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Isn't dev-python/setuptools installed with python2_7? | Code: | emerge -e -p -v world 2>null|grep -v nomerge|grep " python2_7"
[ebuild R ] dev-python/olefile-0.46::gentoo USE="-doc" PYTHON_TARGETS="(-pypy3) python2_7 -python3_6 python3_7 -python3_8 (-python3_9)" 0 KiB
[ebuild R ] dev-python/setuptools-46.4.0-r3::gentoo USE="-test" PYTHON_TARGETS="(-pypy3) python2_7 python3_6 python3_7 -python3_8 (-python3_9)" 0 KiB
[ebuild R ] dev-python/certifi-10001::gentoo USE="-test" PYTHON_TARGETS="(-pypy3) python2_7 python3_6 python3_7 -python3_8 (-python3_9)" 0 KiB |
What do you have?
I guess it's dirty hack, but I sometimes solve USE flag apparent conflct issues, by backuping as binpackage, remove them, e.g. emerge -C, then reinstall.
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I had long removed the need for python2 to generate any files for anything other than a handful of apps.
It's relatively simple, perhaps too simple for the gentoo devs to grasp.
first is this
| Code: | $ head -1 /etc/portage/package.use
*/* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_7 |
This shuts off everything except the version(s) of python that I want, note the lack of python 2.7.
Then do "emerge -pvuDU @world"
and for each package that complains about needing python 2.7 then add
<category</<pkg> python_targets_python2_7
to package.use, repeat the emerge until it runs clean.
Then you can run it without the pretend option and it should remove all need for python 2.7 except for the few that you have designated.
With the mask in package.use no new packages will be applied to python 2.7.
Though you'll still have to rebuild packages until the devs figure out how to clean up the mess they've made of python.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: |
first is this
| Code: | $ head -1 /etc/portage/package.use
*/* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_7 |
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I followed your brilliant advice, but later changed the package.use line to read:
| Code: | | */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -python2_7 python3_7 |
This seems better to me, to first ban, explicitly, the python I DON'T want, and then to name the preferred python, without explicitly banning all other python versions.
It's a mere personal preference as it accomplishes the same thing. I am, indeed, now python-2.7-free on my two main Gentoo systems.
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