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distro?
Debian
37%
 37%  [ 113 ]
Slackware
12%
 12%  [ 38 ]
SuSE
5%
 5%  [ 17 ]
Fedora
8%
 8%  [ 26 ]
Sorcerer/Sourcemage
3%
 3%  [ 11 ]
Mandrake
2%
 2%  [ 9 ]
Archlinux
6%
 6%  [ 20 ]
Other linux distro
7%
 7%  [ 24 ]
*BSD
15%
 15%  [ 46 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: What would you be running if Gentoo didn't exist? Reply with quote

I'd probably use Debian or Sourcemage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably Windows Server 2003 :oops: My friend introduced me into the wonderful Gentoo World ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debian. Heck, I'm running it even though Gentoo does exist...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Debian. Heck, I'm running it even though Gentoo does exist...

Although i would think it's unfair that Ubuntu is not on the list...
I would continue to use Debian on my servers and would switch from gentoo to ubuntu on my desktops
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely Ubuntu.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debian. I've been messing around with it on my laptop for a while now and, despite various hiccups learning the system, I like it quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slackware. If that didn't exist, perhaps Debian or Arch. I already run Slackware on my desktop though...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debian, but I'd hate to miss all the great Gentoo stuff like a decent way to install ati-drivers/nvidia drivers, the huge amount of binary packages in the default package system, portage, the great support forums...

Plus I'd have to live with all the bigots.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

racoontje wrote:
the great support forums...


That's definitely true. One of the best things Gentoo has to offer IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the huge amount of binary packages in the default package system

Out of interest, how would this be something you'd miss, given that Debian has more binary packages than Gentoo?

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Plus I'd have to live with all the bigots.

One could hardly argue that Gentoo is only used by people who are all sweetness and light. :-D

Recall for instance how OTW was going to be shut down because those who post there can't be civil to each other, or witness the frequent flameage that ensues whenever anyone makes a post in support of something that the elitists perceive as "dumbing down" the distribution, e.g. any kind of installer for Gentoo.

There are arseholes everywhere, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm ashamed to say it - if Gentoo wasn't about XP. The thing is, Gentoo is the first distro that I've actually stuck with - it's also encouraged me to look about at other releases.

So now I'm a little more educated (only just) :) I'd have to say Arch Linux ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gen2fox wrote:
Most likely Ubuntu.
Yeah me too :).

Though I wonder if I would have switched back to windows if gentoo didn't exist. Then again, I'm using suse for the moment :PHEAR:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only used Mandrake before coming to Gentoo, so I might still be using Mandrake or perhaps I would have moved to Debian.

However, Gentoo does exist so.... 8)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are arseholes everywhere, I'm afraid.

Yes there are, it's just that the bigger user base you have, the more arseholes there are... and it just so happens that the arseholes are the ones who are the most vocal and make the entire thing look bad :x
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

i would use arch NO! wait im using arch now :D
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syntaxis wrote:
racoontje wrote:
the huge amount of binary packages in the default package system

Out of interest, how would this be something you'd miss, given that Debian has more binary packages than Gentoo?

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Plus I'd have to live with all the bigots.

One could hardly argue that Gentoo is only used by people who are all sweetness and light. :-D

Recall for instance how OTW was going to be shut down because those who post there can't be civil to each other, or witness the frequent flameage that ensues whenever anyone makes a post in support of something that the elitists perceive as "dumbing down" the distribution, e.g. any kind of installer for Gentoo.

There are arseholes everywhere, I'm afraid.


Yeah, but Gentoo doesn't have religious zealots as seen in #debian.

Notice the direct insults vs Gentoo in there. Most, if not all, Debian-related insults in #gentoo are because of the unfriendlyness in #debian towards Gentoo :-/

Ask dpkg what gentooitis is, for example.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Syntaxis wrote:
Debian. Heck, I'm running it even though Gentoo does exist...

Although i would think it's unfair that Ubuntu is not on the list...

Yeah, we're stuck with "Other". Ubuntu is very nice. I've never actually heard of Sourcemage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably Arch or Ubuntu...maybe even FreeBSD....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably still using slackware, I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as my main 'alternative' OS, I'd probably still be using FreeBSD. I actually switched to gentoo because I heard how FreeBSD-like it is without the headaches of it not being Linux.

But, as my primary primary OS (which is currently gentoo), I'd probably still be using Windows if it weren't for gentoo. Although who really knows.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racoontje wrote:
Yeah, but Gentoo doesn't have religious zealots as seen in #debian.

What makes you think that? Whatever else one may say about the site, the quotes on funroll-loops.org from Gentoo users are all one hundred percent genuine. That's a plentiful sufficiency of examples of the same kind of fanboyism in the Gentoo community, right there.

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Most, if not all, Debian-related insults in #gentoo are because of the unfriendlyness in #debian towards Gentoo :-/

Okay, let's assume that's true for the moment. Even if that's the case, that's not a justification - it just means that both sides are equally as childish and petulant as each other.

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Ask dpkg what gentooitis is, for example.

I'm not sure what this is a reference to; a Google search for "gentooitis" yields no results. But even assuming that it's the most heinous insult to Gentoo imaginable, this is once again the pot calling the kettle black. Take a look at what some people were taking the term "debianization" to mean in this thread, for example.

EDIT: Lol - apologies, it's late and I've had quite a large amount to drink. Obviously you meant dpkg the bot on #debian, whereas I thought you meant dpkg the package manager. I thought it would be some hidden easter egg along the lines of "apt-get moo". D'oh! :-D So - I now know what "gentooitis" means, and I don't think it's really that bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably Fedora, since I did not hear about most of these other ones until I came to the forums. :D
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately probably Windows or maybe OSX if I could afford it. Gentoo is the first Linux distro I could stand to use for more than a week, so I still use it. Maybe the others I tried are better at this point though, it's been quite a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I came to Gentoo because I was sick of Fedora Core 2 (it felt like a step down from FC1) but I didn't want to go Windows only again. So assuming I found a different distro I'd have to go with Slackware since that caught my eye before I read about Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debian, I was blazed away by the power of it's packet manager (apt-get) when I first tried it after years of rpm-hell frustration on Red Hat and Mandrake. But then I tried Gentoo ...

Ubuntu looks nice too, but it's almost the same as Debian. Plus, it fucked up my boot manager once :)
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