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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The papermasqe though. You are a fun bunch.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The paper masks can be used only once and must be destoyed when you come back home.

What's the danger. If contaminated with virus then 3+ days of no use should neutralize them. Hang them up outdoors in direct sunlight and you can be sure they can be used again in three days. No?

If you can find them.
An oximeter is a lot more useful to understand wether it's panic or SARS.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can be washed with alchool or in the washing mashine at high temperature.
This RNA-Coronavirus should be destroyd with soapy water just above zero Celsius, wouldn't it?
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If you can find them.

It wasn't hard, I went to my storage room and there they are. A bunch of N95, never used, bought for home repair jobs two years ago. Forgot to toss them away. I guess they won't go sour in two years. How much they help is another question. Can't wear them forever.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon don't be such pussies 1M north italians already got it :-) and survived.

Just don't call an ambulance unless you have difficulties breathing, but call them imediately if you have difficulties breathing. The pain in the back of the throat is intense but stay home, alchohol and opiates lower the lungs functions and can be dangerous better pain-killer or FANS whatever you already have at home, don't go out with symptoms.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we panicin?
I need to know such things.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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C'mon don't be such pussies 1M north italians already got it :-) and survived.

Just don't call an ambulance unless you have difficulties breathing, but call them imediately if you have difficulties breathing. The pain in the back of the throat is intense but stay home, alchohol and opiates lower the lungs functions and can be dangerous better pain-killer or FANS whatever you already have at home, don't go out with symptoms.


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I'm in high risk group. Double risk, if I may say so. Age, cancer treatment took my strength and weak lungs. Call me pussy, but I do not want my chances with this virus. I hope they develop a vaccine before it is too late for me. In any case, if you don't see me logging in here at least once a week then ...
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the only real solution to stop the virus is to kill all people.


But if that happens at one short time, I can see natural gas relieved in the earth atmosphere killing all life ever existed and still exists.
good point patrix_neo. but i guess we will not care. we want to stop the virus and make the world disinfected again. ecology or even economy are not relevant once you get into the anti-virus vibe!
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If you can find them.

It wasn't hard, I went to my storage room and there they are. A bunch of N95, never used, bought for home repair jobs two years ago. Forgot to toss them away. I guess they won't go sour in two years. How much they help is another question. Can't wear them forever.


I forgot to mention that now they say that we should not use N95 because wearing them you could infect other people if you already have COVID.
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OK, lets see if I got it right. No matter what we do or don't do everyone will eventually catch it. Right? Even if there is this "herd effect" which stops mass spread any one can still get infected randomly. The only hope is there will be a vaccine which immunizes high risk people like myself. Correct?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm in high risk group. Double risk, if I may say so. Age, cancer treatment took my strength and weak lungs. Call me pussy, but I do not want my chances with this virus. I hope they develop a vaccine before it is too late for me. In any case, if you don't see me logging in here at least once a week then ...

Find that oximeter
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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alchohol and opiates lower the lungs functions and can be dangerous better pain-killer or FANS whatever you already have at home
FANS?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e3k wrote:
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the only real solution to stop the virus is to kill all people.


But if that happens at one short time, I can see natural gas relieved in the earth atmosphere killing all life ever existed and still exists.
good point patrix_neo. but i guess we will not care. we want to stop the virus and make the world disinfected again. ecology or even economy are not relevant once you get into the anti-virus vibe!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Social distancing is in effect for Honolulu county, work from home order in effect. Sadly, most people don't understand what 6' distance means.

Did one last shopping trip just now for the fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water). Fresh produce hasn't been effected, thankfully. People seem to be buying instant foods rather than produce and meats.

We have 90 cases in Hawaii and one death.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did one last shopping trip just now for the fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water). Fresh produce hasn't been effected, thankfully. People seem to be buying instant foods rather than produce and meats.

Yea, I bought dry and canned goods a long time ago (back when coronavirus was just a democratic hoax). My last few trips to the grocery store, the canned goods isle was cleared out, but there was plenty of produce and meat.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did one last shopping trip just now for the fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water). Fresh produce hasn't been effected, thankfully. People seem to be buying instant foods rather than produce and meats.

Yea, I bought dry and canned goods a long time ago (back when coronavirus was just a democratic hoax). My last few trips to the grocery store, the canned goods isle was cleared out, but there was plenty of produce and meat.


Which, for me, is fine. Aside from some beans, tomatoes, green chilies, and some soup nearly all of the food I buy is fresh produce and meat.

Costco was weird as they were limiting the number of people in the store at a given time. Of course they were out of TP as that's what every idiot stocked up on.

For normal, healthy people, this doesn't seem that serious. But for anyone with underlying health conditions, especially respiratory issues, this virus looks quite grim.

With the US having over 50,000 cases and around 800 dying from it (so far), that's a 1.6% mortality rate. It will probable climb a couple percentage points up.


The freezing of the economy is the bigger problem. People will get desperate, and soon. Here's hoping Peolsi stops trying to cram diversity measures and ManBearPig crap into the relief bill. This shouldn't be a Christmas wish list for politicians, just provide the aid to all Americans,
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water).


Good work that man, although I would have dropped the tonic water for beer.
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fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water).


Good work that man, although I would have dropped the tonic water for beer.


I have a few cases of beer. But those are being saved for when the weather heats up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fun essentials (vodka, gin, rum, some wine, and 2 cases of tonic water).


Good work that man, although I would have dropped the tonic water for beer.


I have a few cases of beer. But those are being saved for when the weather heats up.


I sense wrong thread/out of topic here. I mean, where are all the admins when you need to clean the kitchen!?
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Fresh produce hasn't been effected, thankfully. People seem to be buying instant foods rather than produce and meats.
It seems that hoarders go to the next available item remaining on the shelves. Roughly, it seems to have been TP, disinfectant products; canned goods, instant foods; bread products, peanut butter. Somewhere in there also went rice and pasta. After that, produce dwindled appreciably. Signs about limits seem to appear after hoarders have already raided shelves. Or maybe it is groups of other people looking for something, anything after hoarders finish their raid. Whenever the hoarding began, some suppliers indicated they would not increase supply as a result of hoarding (demand would be lower). With indadequate supplies, I'm waiting to see the order that does not allow any movement outside of your home. Government policies seem to be demanding and rewarding panic and hoarding related behavior. Certain types seem to be advocating for months, not weeks. And the approach seems to be gradual introduction of confinement. How many days can you survive on what you already have?
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alchohol and opiates lower the lungs functions and can be dangerous better pain-killer or FANS whatever you already have at home
FANS?

Sorry NSAIDs
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug

They said that ibuprofen worsen the symptoms, than said it doesn't, than that maybe it does, but probably it is an hoax.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With indadequate supplies, I'm waiting to see the order that does not allow any movement outside of your home. Government policies seem to be demanding and rewarding panic and hoarding related behavior. Certain types seem to be advocating for months, not weeks. And the approach seems to be gradual introduction of confinement. How many days can you survive on what you already have?

Seems unlikely that we will be prevented from leaving the house in the US. That would be more strict than what was done in China, and so far, nobody else in the world has even approached China's level.

And keep in mind that the strictness level they went to in China worked, so there doesn't seem to be a reason to go further.

As for the length, that may depend somewhat on how how strict the lockdowns are, and how early they are instituted. If you do a half-way lockdown, and it doesn't fully stop tranmission, then the lockdown may drag on for months. Seems better to just go all the way, and minimize the length. Emperically, full lockdowns for something like a month seem necessary to kill transmission.

Of course, all of that is just my opinion.
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With indadequate supplies, I'm waiting to see the order that does not allow any movement outside of your home. Government policies seem to be demanding and rewarding panic and hoarding related behavior. Certain types seem to be advocating for months, not weeks. And the approach seems to be gradual introduction of confinement. How many days can you survive on what you already have?

Seems unlikely that we will be prevented from leaving the house in the US. That would be more strict than what was done in China, and so far, nobody else in the world has even approached China's level.


China was welding bars on people's windows and securing their doors.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/378365/coronavirus-patients-welded-into-homes-in-china-as-death-toll-spirals-to-813/
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With indadequate supplies, I'm waiting to see the order that does not allow any movement outside of your home. Government policies seem to be demanding and rewarding panic and hoarding related behavior. Certain types seem to be advocating for months, not weeks. And the approach seems to be gradual introduction of confinement. How many days can you survive on what you already have?

Seems unlikely that we will be prevented from leaving the house in the US. That would be more strict than what was done in China, and so far, nobody else in the world has even approached China's level.


China was welding bars on people's windows and securing their doors.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/378365/coronavirus-patients-welded-into-homes-in-china-as-death-toll-spirals-to-813/

Yea, that were definitely crazy. But as far as I understand it, they welded doors and windows so that there would only be N entrances, and each entrance could be manned by a person checking temperatures. As far as I know, even in the crazy authoritarian lockdown they instituted, they never said that people couldn't leave their house full stop.

Hmmm, the article you linked to claims differently than I thought. It's the Sun though, so not sure how credible it is.
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