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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:15 am    Post subject: Covid-19 Reply with quote

Admin EDIT: Continued from The Coronavirus. --pjp

https://www.abbvie.com/coronavirus.html
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AbbVie is collaborating with global health authorities and institutions, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Institutes of Health (NIH), World Health Organization (WHO), among others, to evaluate any potential antiviral activity as well as efficacy and safety of KALETRA® /Aluvia (lopinavir/ritonavir)* against COVID-19. We’ve also joined the Innovative Medicines Initiative to support research and discovery of targeted medicines against COVID-19.

AbbVie has supplied KALETRA/Aluvia as an experimental option for the treatment of COVID-19 to multiple countries that have immediate patient needs due to the outbreak, including donating product to the Chinese government in the early days of their fight against the virus.


Some websites are selling this snake-oil for 600$ a box even if if was never tested for COVID-19 nor it showed any activity against the virus for the moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://www.abbvie.com/coronavirus.html
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AbbVie is collaborating with global health authorities and institutions, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Institutes of Health (NIH), World Health Organization (WHO), among others, to evaluate any potential antiviral activity as well as efficacy and safety of KALETRA® /Aluvia (lopinavir/ritonavir)* against COVID-19. We’ve also joined the Innovative Medicines Initiative to support research and discovery of targeted medicines against COVID-19.

AbbVie has supplied KALETRA/Aluvia as an experimental option for the treatment of COVID-19 to multiple countries that have immediate patient needs due to the outbreak, including donating product to the Chinese government in the early days of their fight against the virus.


Some websites are selling this snake-oil for 600$ a box even if if was never tested for COVID-19 nor it showed any activity against the virus for the moment.

I'm going to announce that I'm collaborating with the same to evaluate antiviral benefits of my sperm! :o

Their stock rose for the first two weeks of Feb and has been sinking ever since.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....safe Island.
Wait, wait, wait...I did that wrong!
*cough* ...safe Island...*cough*
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China lied.

People died.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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China lied.

People died.

Woke
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old JB' still here, despite being surrounded by cases, well one person I know may have been in contact with somebody who has fairly classic symptoms.

Never mind, where's me ale ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard sirens just on and off all day for the last two days.
To the story, I have been working on and off at home for two days...and I am dried out of alcohol. That's the plan!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old frail people around here are dropping like flies. but it's because of getting booted out of the hospital to make room for expected coronavirus patients. So far just one case confirmed in the county.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What part of the world is that at?
EDIT: To emote - The tendency to tend to 'the right' group and drop other groups out is not just racist, also it's the right thing to do in a crisis like this. Happens everywhere where resources are outdone.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:

Their stock rose for the first two weeks of Feb and has been sinking ever since.

Just looking for some attention of course. Apparently every company has the ultimate solution for COVID-19 now, there are even a few companies that are crowdfunding a vaccine, they are almost there, with a couple of millions € crowdfunding the vaccine is done...

Bones McCracker wrote:
So far just one case confirmed in the county.


You might not believe it but that's extremely bad ..... there are 5 asyntomatics spreading the disease for every confirmed positive .... How many intensive care beds with pulmonar ventilators has the local hospital :-)
Just joking of course, so far only 3 persons died in Italy of COVID-19 without having any other illness.

Italians always have fun you know, wash well fruits and vegetables:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Ts_ReEtik

PS the police catched the genius in a few hours.


In the next few days a COVID Hospital with 2000 beds is going to open at 10 km from here, but I am not 100% sure it is a good news.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at those, it works to redude lethality by 50%:
https://www.businessinsider.com/regeneron-sanofi-us-coronavirus-trial-arthritis-drug-kevzara-2020-3?IR=T
Used on 350 patients already.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How Ebola Got Its Name

Just in case you have seen the msm idiocy about what to call this coronavirus.
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Why Is It Called The Zika Virus? Its Name References Its Origin Story
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why was it called the “Spanish Flu?”

But trump is a racist, the TDS is a quite persistent strain causing a detachment from reality and reason.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why was it called the “Spanish Flu?”

But trump is a racist, the TDS is a quite persistent strain causing a detachment from reality and reason.


It's worse than that. The Chinese government is actively trying to distance itself from it and now have an army of trolls on Social media calling anyone who refers to the Chinese Wuhan Virus as anything other than Covid-19 as racists, The media is also running cover for the Chicoms, as are numerous celebrities and other members of the wokerati.

CNN and the MSM are ridiculous
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But trump is a racist, the TDS is a quite persistent strain causing a detachment from reality and reason.
But Trump knew in advance. He told everyone that the Red Plague was coming, over two full years before this became popularly known, even going so far as to give us part of the name by which it would be popularly known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why was it called the “Spanish Flu?”

But trump is a racist, the TDS is a quite persistent strain causing a detachment from reality and reason.


It's worse than that. The Chinese government is actively trying to distance itself from it and now have an army of trolls on Social media calling anyone who refers to the Chinese Wuhan Virus as anything other than Covid-19 as racists, The media is also running cover for the Chicoms, as are numerous celebrities and other members of the wokerati.

CNN and the MSM are ridiculous
It was you (or Old_school ?) who got us this crazy moment! Surely in our forum we talked about an institute in Wuhan, but the Chinese government just turned it around when reading in our forum: bio-weapon

That a typical phenomenon: you create the inertia and then accuse the leftist media!

PS in case you don't know: "trolls on Social media" are propagating the virus came from the U.S. to weaken China!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But Trump knew in advance. He told everyone that the Red Plague was coming, over two full years before this became popularly known, even going so far as to give us part of the name by which it would be popularly known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was you (or Old_school ?) who got us this crazy moment! Surely in our forum we talked about an institute in Wuhan, but the Chinese government just turned it around when reading in our forum: bio-weapon

That a typical phenomenon: you create the inertia and then accuse the leftist media!

PS in case you don't know: "trolls on Social media" are propagating the virus came from the U.S. to weaken China!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Local News Update

Public beaches and parks will be closed on Oahu starting Friday. Major shopping centers will be operating on reduced hours. We have a total of 14 confirmed cases, all of which are associated with travel.

Also, Can we send them the bill?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only 17 persons under 50 died in Italy and only 3 of them had no other illness, a terrific bioweapon that could anihilate an Army ..... of retired workers :-)

And nobody explains how did the chinese put the engineered virus back into the bat population .....

I think that the story of the World Military Games in Wuhan is a lot more credible. It is hard to believe that since the virus was already spreading in wuhan it wasn't the (military) athletes that brought it back ... Iran did even win 4 medals.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in german lang: Drosten tells why the malaria medicine Cloroqin today is wrongly reported to have effects on Covid-19 patients:
Results were taken in throat. But there the virus concentration is going down anyway, instead the widelands in the lungs are used later on by Sars-Cov-2. The double blind non treated group was a cohort selected much earlier in the cycle of the disease than the treated group. The scientists obviously didn't know about that process of CoVid-19.

Testing situation in Germany is going down relatively: As the infections double every few days the testing capacities will grow 30% linearily. So, not much more than 10^5/week as of now which soonishly not is enough testing.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to a recent research Italy will need to double its intensive care beds to avoid sacrificing some patients (it did not happen yet), if the epidemics keeps spreading at 13% pace (half of what it does in countries without lockdown):

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30627-9/fulltext

Italy is one of the EU countries with more intensive care beds pro-capita:

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00134-012-2627-8/MediaObjects/134_2012_2627_Fig1_HTML.gif?as=webp

If the UK really has so few intensive care beds (half of Italy), I would be a bit worried.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in german lang: Drosten tells why the malaria medicine Cloroqin today is wrongly reported to have effects on Covid-19 patients:
Results were taken in throat. But there the virus concentration is going down anyway, instead the widelands in the lungs are used later on by Sars-Cov-2. The double blind non treated group was a cohort selected much earlier in the cycle of the disease than the treated group. The scientists obviously didn't know about that process of CoVid-19.

17:00 Trump talks about to aprove it to save enormous amount of lifes.
13:00 Drosten told about heavy side-effect with Chloroquine medication
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the the US the number of ICU beds might be enough if they contain the spread since they already have twice as much ICU beds as Italy had 2 weeks ago (that is more or less like Canada) ....

Also Germany and Austria should be OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also for east Europeans, the russian drug called Arbidol
that allegedly should cure SARS and (common) coronavirus is more or less as effective as Tamiflu against COVID-19. Don't waste time and money with online orders.
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