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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:50 pm    Post subject: The transgender ‘faith’ beats Christianity and common sense Reply with quote

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-transgender-faith-beats-christianity-and-common-sense/

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ThE days when transsexualism was uncommon, a little obscure and barely affected us are long gone. Today society is being officially reshaped in the trans image.

Yesterday an employment tribunal declared that ‘lack of belief in transgenderism and conscientious objection to transgenderism in our judgment are incompatible with human dignity and conflict with the fundamental rights of others, specifically here, transgender individuals.’

Before we ask when and how transgenderism acquired the status of a faith, let’s look back at the case in question. It centres on an experienced Christian doctor who was forced out of his job working for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) after refusing to commit to using transgender pronouns and who has now lost his employment tribunal case.

Dr David Mackereth’s story is one which we followed on TCW from the start. We commented on his disgraceful treatment at the hands of the media here and here.

Dr Mackereth had his government contract terminated following a conversation with his line manager in which he said he would not (in principle – and note the use of the subjunctive – this was a hypothetical discussion) refer to a 6ft bearded man as ‘she’ or ‘Madam’ if requested.

In this latest episode, the tribunal has ruled that his dismissal was lawful because his refusal to comply would have made him guilty of unlawful discrimination or harassment under the Equality Act.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely insane.

It really is time to push back against this nonsense. I don't care if some 6' dude with a beard in a dress wants to think of himself as a woman, but I'm not going to participate in his own self image.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
Absolutely insane.

It really is time to push back against this nonsense. I don't care if some 6' dude with a beard in a dress wants to think of himself as a woman, but I'm not going to participate in his own self image.


The genie's escaped the bottle, this shit's everywhere now

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most trans now are what I like to call "politically trans" as in they claim the identity with no intention of actually transitioning. One offender was a overweight bearded guy on a college panel next to his hot feminist "lesbian" girlfriend. Not hard to see why he was so eager to embrace the identity.

I think this nonsense is going to start blowing up in their faces. As they keep scraping the barrel for cases of discrimination they are going to annoy people and the cool factor is going to wear off. Also, more cases of guys claiming to be trans to peek are going to start surfacing. There have already been a ton of those.

Feminism is going to become unpopular again very quickly as the fad runs its course and it seems to be taking progressives with it. Democrats are looking to have this election cycle blow up in their faces and could easily end the party. Labour is less popular than the lib dems. All across the world people are getting sick of the progressives. The tide is turning.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The conservativewoman.co.uk further states:
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A person always remains as born: genetically male or female.
This is seldomly a wrong statement: There are human beings having xxy and these people do have both sex organs also. The Bible sadly got it wrong and lied about God.
The only true sentence is the 3. sentence : "There shall be light" (don't know the english wordings) which sentence is the foundation of science and long discussed about if everywhere in the Universe are holding the same physical laws. If not, there is no light possible between these very different areas of the Universe, because these are responding to different "protocols" not compatible to one another.
Thus the sentence "There shall be light" is the fundamental truth science needs. All other sentences of the Bible disobey the command "Don't describe or picture or make a statue of God" (again I don't remember the wording). Including that command itself - describing a character of God - is forbidden.
The Bible is a contradiction in itself only to be solved by not believing (but I know God exist scientifically and I still can say what he not is (a he for example he is not, because this would make him missing a female counterpart and since the old greek philosophers we know there cannot be half a god, which is why Socrates died)).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people would assume that the lest than 1% with a genuine sexual malformation would go without saying. And of course, those individuals cannot be considered to have gender dysphoria as they don't meet the criteria and don't share the same treatments.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
Absolutely insane.

It really is time to push back against this nonsense. I don't care if some 6' dude with a beard in a dress wants to think of himself as a woman, but I'm not going to participate in his own self image.
Completely, but this is something that needs to be fully pushed into the absurd for empirical evidence to be clearly seen as to the ramifications. Anyone with half a brain knows pandering along these lines was going full retard... problem is the moment you try to have a reasonable discussion... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

A valid cause ( normalise intersex, remove stigma of those with mental health) sure, but hijacked by the vast majority who what to tag along with trends. #meToo suffered the same thing and so has feminism and this

https://pjmedia.com/trending/uk-referees-quitting-over-transgender-players-breaking-womens-bones/
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Rugby referees in the UK would rather quit their jobs rather than watch male players who identify as females injure and maim actual female players. The Sunday Times reported that the fear of "being sued as more men claim to be women join the women's leagues and end up hurting natural-born female contestants with their strength and speed" has led to their decision to resign rather than take the liability.

The refs also report that they have been warned not to question even bearded men for fear of being seen as non-inclusive. Women's rugby does have a testosterone limit, but instead of testing the participants, refs are told to take the transgender athletes at their word.


"Kelly Morgan" is the problem, not white males, oh wait, they use to identify as a white male
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".
It is older than youtube:
This ever was the fear of men. And this fear ever was enforced by state/military authorities. In war or in jail.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".

What is also beyond parody is this guy has transitioned from male to fauxmale, back to male, and now back to fauxmale.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[url=https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10162480/police-transgender-woman-investigate-porn/]Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’[/url]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".


FFS they need to keep busy somehow captain negative.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This "identity" crap needs to stop. If you have a vagina, you're a chick. If you have a penis, you're a dude. If you have both, then claim whichever one you want.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrbassie wrote:
Muso wrote:
Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".


FFS they need to keep busy somehow captain negative.


But they have serious work to do, like finding an errant spoon on the loose.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrbassie wrote:
Muso wrote:
Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role ‘because she has a penis’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bang this guy or you'll be arrested for a hate crime" FFS, UK. This is beyond parody.

I guess Sam Hyde's 2070 Paradigm Shift was right about "State enforced homosexuality".


FFS they need to keep busy somehow captain negative.


But they have serious work to do, like finding an errant spoon on the loose.


Stop hiding cameras in my kitchen drawers.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Pool found it
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant the other one.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrbassie wrote:
I meant the other one.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like being the subject of a hypothetical: I am 6 '4' bearded man. Also look rather manly (broad chest and shoulders).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't like being the subject of a hypothetical: I am 6 '4' bearded man. Also look rather manly (broad chest and shoulders).


In the UK you could still get a doctor fired for not calling you "ma'am" were you to claim to be a woman.
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wswartzendruber wrote:
This "identity" crap needs to stop. If you have a vagina, you're a chick. If you have a penis, you're a dude. If you have both, then claim whichever one you want.


i am as you know more liberal than you.

My take on it is that I don't care how you identify, as it usually doesn't matter. I will likely respect it and use whatever of he or she you want (I am not a big fan of made up ones, I guess they is fine) as again it doesn't matter to me how you identify ... until it does matter. Sometimes it really matters if your sex gave you naturally higher muscle mass. There is a reason women's sports exist.

what bothers me about this movement is how people with genuine concerns (yes, I don't want a man with a beard in the women's change room with my young daughters) are labelled as transphobes. Any reasonable human will see why that is a real concern, and doesn't necessarily need to be motivated by hate. And facilities are bending over backwards and sometimes it isn't enough (single stall neutral bathrooms, etc).

No, we don't all hate you. And yes there are genuine concerns.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, we don't all hate you. And yes there are genuine concerns.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most trans now are what I like to call "politically trans" as in they claim the identity with no intention of actually transitioning. One offender was a overweight bearded guy on a college panel next to his hot feminist "lesbian" girlfriend. Not hard to see why he was so eager to embrace the identity.

I think this nonsense is going to start blowing up in their faces. As they keep scraping the barrel for cases of discrimination they are going to annoy people and the cool factor is going to wear off. Also, more cases of guys claiming to be trans to peek are going to start surfacing. There have already been a ton of those.

Feminism is going to become unpopular again very quickly as the fad runs its course and it seems to be taking progressives with it. Democrats are looking to have this election cycle blow up in their faces and could easily end the party. Labour is less popular than the lib dems. All across the world people are getting sick of the progressives. The tide is turning.


History doesn't go backward. In Europa, it took centuries to get ride of the religious dictatorships and their kings of divine ascendance. The issue we are facing today is than all over the world, more and more peoples are getting sick of the bourgeois politic because they are not better than the kings was, and even into a democracy, the middle class is not better. It vote one time for the right washing, one time for the red washing, and now even one time for the green washing. In other words, they vote for the one that promise them to change everything so that nothing will change, and even when they know that, they don't car than the military-industrial complex use more than half of the world ressources just to make wars. In short, peoples are generally not better than the society we are living in.

Where I agree with you is when I see some leftist helping illegal migrants to stay here, invoking humain right issues as justification. In one hand they are right because the wars never stops, and the most agressive counties of today are the ones from the NATO. The US war in the middle East alone made a few thousands dead peoples on the US side, and more than one million dead peoples in the Arabic countries. Which imply the worst terrorists are not the ones the media tell us in the West. But back to these migrants and our leftist. Some of these migrants are very nice peoples, but other are complet morons that just deserve to get back to their dictatorship with the first flight available. Not all African countries are democratic countries, and some of them are dictatorships of the worst kind: religious dictatorship where the only schools are Islamic schools. The result is than some refugees will tell you with a big smile: "I am for the death sentence for all homosexuals." They flee from a religious dictatorship but at the same time, they think like that dictatorship. Which imply their real place is into that dictatorship.

But, the leftist will help such an Islamist guy the same way he will help a normal family to stay here. When I see that kind of things, I am not surprised than the left never succeeded in the West. Another issue with that is, when the left is helping such Islamist guys to stay here, that will just fuel our own fundamentalist idiots. That at a time the world really need less of all that fundamentalist and racist political bullshit.
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