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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autopsy finds broken bones in Epstein's neck, deepening questions around his death

Broken bones, from paper sheets. Shrieking and broken neck bones. Whoever was behind this was in a hurry to ensure Epstein wouldn't talk.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposedly it had been a very long time since they had a suicide there because they were "that good" of a facility. I would not want to be the guards who were on duty at the time and "fell asleep."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Supposedly it had been a very long time since they had a suicide there because they were "that good" of a facility. I would not want to be the guards who were on duty at the time and "fell asleep."


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Autopsy finds broken bones in Epstein's neck, deepening questions around his death

Broken bones, from paper sheets. Shrieking and broken neck bones. Whoever was behind this was in a hurry to ensure Epstein wouldn't talk.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Autopsy finds broken bones in Epstein's neck, deepening questions around his death

Broken bones, from paper sheets. Shrieking and broken neck bones. Whoever was behind this was in a hurry to ensure Epstein wouldn't talk.


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No worries, I've got you covered. fam ;)
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Autopsy finds broken bones in Epstein's neck, deepening questions around his death

Broken bones, from paper sheets. Shrieking and broken neck bones. Whoever was behind this was in a hurry to ensure Epstein wouldn't talk.


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No worries, I've got you covered. fam ;)

Thank you very much!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Supposedly it had been a very long time since they had a suicide there because they were "that good" of a facility. I would not want to be the guards who were on duty at the time and "fell asleep."

so if they are that good at that facility, how do they know blood curdling shrieking isn't normal for suicide
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Supposedly it had been a very long time since they had a suicide there because they were "that good" of a facility. I would not want to be the guards who were on duty at the time and "fell asleep."

so if they are that good at that facility, how do they know blood curdling shrieking isn't normal for suicide
Singling out this facitlity with a track record may imply that other facilities aren't as good. Were there not a bunch of other response Tweets confirming "that's normal, we see it all the time"?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Supposedly it had been a very long time since they had a suicide there because they were "that good" of a facility. I would not want to be the guards who were on duty at the time and "fell asleep."

so if they are that good at that facility, how do they know blood curdling shrieking isn't normal for suicide
A simple google finds the british information about the MCC is a Gulag
The BBC on that page cites this page of gothamist from more than a year ago. If the death of Epstein
- is caused by these circumstances in the MCC or
- it is caused by a Clinton coup

Attorney Barr must resign in both cases of events: He should have foreseen
- the conditions at the MCC location not the minimum necessary in this case
- the motivation for illegal action of other players if involved

Barr must defend the constitution and prevent any previous president from altering the jurisdictional system. He must safeguard the public from any impression a previous "power house" could alter the rule of law.
Barr failed dramatically.
If this not has consequences the only path to go for the USA in the future:
Kill former presidents like this is done in african countries when there is no other way for a clean power transition. The death of Epstein may come to a constitutional crisis like none before in the recent past. (Democrats may have to kill Trump after a won election for power transition etc)

This thread stinks like teen spirit only because there isn't anyone taking issues seriously. But that might have to change and get bloody in the U.S. Lastly I saw Trump glimpse the meaning of his presidency. Eyes wide open he told reporters: "I could within minutes wipe out 10 millions" (I don't remember exactly the words)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This thread stinks like teen spirit only because there isn't anyone taking issues seriously.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yes, wise one. Please enlighten us all on US politics. We obviously need your guidance.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This thread stinks like teen spirit only because there isn't anyone taking issues seriously.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yes, wise one. Please enlighten us all on US politics. We obviously need your guidance.

I haven't had a good gun debate in a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This thread stinks like teen spirit only because there isn't anyone taking issues seriously.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yes, wise one. Please enlighten us all on US politics. We obviously need your guidance.

I haven't had a good gun debate in a while.
I've never seen a good debate from those opposed. But that's because they fundamentally ignore the issues or come up with some ill-suited for the alleged goal such as Red Flag laws (I'd argue that it suits their goal, just not the goal of which they publicly speak).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Clintons are a popular suspect, but it doesn't actually follow. Aside from there being no public accusations of impropriety concerning young ladies they wouldn't stick anyway. Unless Hillary tries a floor nomination for president both of their political careers are over. They don't need to maintain an image or worry about what it looks like.

If Bill is accused then he is shocked and disappointed his one time friend lied about the age of the "intern" and he deeply regrets the pain he caused her and her family. And of course, he begs for Hilary's forgiveness, etc. etc. The legal system looks him over and says "that sounds right. Your off the hook." just like with Hillary destroying public records and defying a court order to turn them over. He has nothing substantial to loose with his name coming up. Therefore, he has very little motive for a sloppy, desperate murder that could come back to him.

(disclaimer, I really dislike the entire family)

Look at the large number of people who still have political careers and public images. Those are your suspects because they have something to loose.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
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(disclaimer, I really dislike the entire family)

Look at the large number of people who still have political careers and public images. Those are your suspects because they have something to loose.
Full ack. Correctly analysed.
But you know, everyone knows this!
But what is it really about?

Trump confirmed by his retweet the possible involvement of the Clintons, because he wanted to break a taboo. The taboo is to indict a former president. Thereby the power transitions peacefully. But the democrats discussed indicting Trump after his presidency.

It is all about another tiny step direction civil war. Isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only for someone who confuses twitter for the real world.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look at the large number of people who still have political careers and public images. Those are your suspects because they have something to loose.
Statutory rape is certainly a big part of it, but it also includes "crossing state lines," which I believe exacerbates it and makes it a federal issue. The bigger issue is that of human trafficking and possibly forced confinement / imprisonment. Those would seem to be sufficient motivation for anyone, not just those with a political career. The Clinton's have more at stake than a political future. I doubt they "made the call."
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Well, my point is that legally they are ridiculously isolated to the point where even if they did commit the crime it would somehow not be his responsibility. Unless there is video of him specifically asking for a 15 year old first or something so ridiculously concrete explicit. Simply having video of him "not having sexual relations" won't be close to enough. With the risk to their image being all that is really in play they are not the ones with the most to loose. He is Al Capone. You don't get him for crimes committed and he is careful to file his taxes.

The ones who don't have the influence to convince courts that destruction of public records and disregard for court orders are the ones who would actually face the consequences for their actions.
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I've never seen a good debate from those opposed.

Funny how that works.
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@The Doctor: Well, yeah. No evidence, no case. As far as I know, no one has accused either of them of being involved. With what seems like poor handling of the situation, I'd be surprised if there was any evidence.


@richk449: *shrug* Their typical solutions are reactionary and not based on anything meaningful. Look at the calls for "we have to do something" and the like. No, we don't have to do something. Stop making it a campaign issue and come up with a reasoned assessment of actual problems and possible solutions that don't violat the rights of law abiding citizens. Funny how they never do that.
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I've never seen a good debate from those opposed.

Funny how that works.


I like that! Frikkin man. You are dope...in a positive way.
Nothing against someone not experienced enough in different minded....lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the death of Epstein
- is caused by these circumstances in the MCC or
- it is caused by a Clinton coup

Attorney Barr must resign in both cases of events: He should have foreseen
- the conditions at the MCC location not the minimum necessary in this case
- the motivation for illegal action of other players if involved

AG Barr can take out someone below himself instead resigning.
Barr has replaced Federal Bureau of Prisons Acting Director
Nevertheless case closed by this government member falsifying Trump who wants to defame a predecessor.
Scumbag he is.
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He was friends with Prince Andrew.
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I just learned AG Barr having had personal ties to Epstein. His father had introduced Epstein to New York society. Probably to those people Epstein sucked later on.
So AG Barr visited Epstein two weeks before and had a conversation with him secretly !?
AG Barr has just collected all of Epsteins incriminating dossiers that where stored for decades in the Epstein real estates . AG Barr now has the untouchable status only Hoover had before.
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