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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject: Any soft phone / softphone? Reply with quote

Hello

I remember a long time ago, there were many soft phones / softphones.

Now it seems, for gentoo, officially there is no such thing.

What comes close:

- linphone, from an overlay, bzrtp does not compile and seems broken, binary version hard to install
- empathy, probably not a soft phone, probably unmaintained, unclear if it works at all
- zoiper, expensive
- ekiga, historic, just a mask is left
- sflphone, historic, just a mask is left
- wine (and install some Windows thing)

Is there any good solution that is reasonably quick to install and use?

thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I compiled Linphone 4.X from git, didn't find a good alternative.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

net-voip/blink (in overlay) looks like it might be a good one. The ebuild's two releases behind, upstream last updated in February.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jitsi might be worth a look, although only available via overlay
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also telepathy with USE=sip.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telepathy is actually an interesting example.

What is it? There is no command and nothing else that you can do anything with that is named telepathy.

With lots of exploring /var/db/pkg/*/*/CONTENTS (done this very long ago) I come up with empathy.

What is this? It looks like a messenger, just visually. It's probably a mockup of what an instant messenger used to look like. There is a text "You have no contacts", a greyed out "Add contact", an "Away" "Available" etc selector and a "Set away message" that even pops up something - I didn't bother to try typing anything.

What is notable is that it is nowhere near being a messenger, or anything that does anything at all. No menus, no "Add account".

So I guess, that is too user-unfriendly for Gnome? Maybe you must explore all the menus that can be reached from the desktop, and start from there, and it will do something?

So let's close it. There is a menu item "Empathy". Let's try it. Wow! The same piece of Nothing again.

So i wonder, what is this at all?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried -- blink --, I guess it looks promising, but is not easy to compile. I think that was my attempt to compile something where all distfiles were missing, and I got halfway through getting some dependencies installed anyway.

I installed a lot of distributions in virtual machines, and found a single distribution that still has a SIP client.

This is -- CentOS -- with -- ekiga --

I will come back to this someday ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I remember that we had gnomemeeting in the past on Gentoo, I wondered why ekiga is missing and did some research. There I found this:
http://ekiga.1756082.n4.nabble.com/Ekiga-is-dead-according-to-Gentoo-td4657533.html
https://bugs.gentoo.org/627868
Code:
- net-voip/ekiga-4.0.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Pacho Ramos <[hidden email]> (27 Dec 2017)
# All Ekiga set is dead and broken for years, it relies on obsolete
# dead/libs that are also old and broken and upstream looks to not release
# newer ekiga ever. To keep this please go ahead and take care of it *and
# all the dependencies it also needs*. See bugs #626176, #460458, #589276,
# #638122, #641990, #633670, #624578, #600398, #627868.
# Removal in a month.

So is ekiga still alive and got some maintenance meanwhile?
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twinkle could make its way back, now that it has been updated to Qt5:

http://twinkle.dolezel.info/
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats about kphone?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked at Telegram? telegram-desktop
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:54 pm    Post subject: Twinkle! Reply with quote

I would like to support skaumo's suggestion to bring twinkle onboard the Gentoo world. Years ago it was the only SIP app that worked (here in Germany). How and where can I ask for someone to create a Gentoo package?
Thanks for someone supporting this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Twinkle! Reply with quote

BM-W wrote:
How and where can I ask for someone to create a Gentoo package?

You can open an issue on bugs.gentoo.org, specifying the "new package" component, requesting that the software be packaged. However, note that Gentoo is maintained by volunteers, so there might not be anyone willing and able to create the ebuild and become the maintainer for it. In that case, you could try writing the ebuild yourself, starting from this quickstart guide; if you have questions, you could ask on the #gentoo-dev-help channel on IRC, or on the bug report itself.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite some time ago (~2018/2019) i've been using linphone and i'm still looking for an alternative. WebRTC seems like a good one, but is broken when combined with alsa (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1168359-highlight-webrtc.html).

I see a few alternatives i'd like to share/discuss, I haven't tried them yet.
asterisk with chan_console: Basically you can use asterisk as a phone using a speaker, microphone and the CLI. Probably you'll need a nice GUI for a phone-like experience, but all the (heavy) sip/rtp work is done by asterisk.
XMPP: XMPP has similar capabilities and the availability of XMPP clients (pidgin for example) is better than SIP clients. ejabberd seems like an XMPP server which integrates nicely with asterisk.

Has anyone tried such a setup?
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