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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The guy in El Paso hated Mexicans, the guy in Ohio was a left wing, Antifa fan, and supporter of Elizabeth Warren...

Trump blames video games.

FFS


Flag this post for juniper.

See, we do criticize Trump, unlike the lefties that still heap praise on Barry.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With people like James Yeager, it's easy as they shoot their mouths off about killing people. Colion Noir has always been about the preservation of life, so they'd have to be a lot more careful with him.
The first would be about killing people. Entirely separate matter. I'm surprised they haven't already instituted the ban. Neil DeGrasse Tyson apparently "felt compelled" to apologize about a tweet regarding data rather than sensationalized journalism (he didn't use the last two words, but that seemed to be his general point).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Muso wrote:
The guy in El Paso hated Mexicans, the guy in Ohio was a left wing, Antifa fan, and supporter of Elizabeth Warren...

Trump blames video games.

FFS


Flag this post for juniper.

See, we do criticize Trump, unlike the lefties that still heap praise on Barry.
But not half as dumb as the bump-stock ban. That was complete, reactionary, safety theater.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Muso wrote:
The guy in El Paso hated Mexicans, the guy in Ohio was a left wing, Antifa fan, and supporter of Elizabeth Warren...

Trump blames video games.

FFS


Flag this post for juniper.

See, we do criticize Trump, unlike the lefties that still heap praise on Barry.


and Einstein took smelly shits.

See, sounds bad, but not really a criticism. That Trump said something idiotic is like night following day, so that's just generally accepted. Criticism is different.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He shoots, goal posts feint left... just a bit outside.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Criticism is different.


TDS is different.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The guy in El Paso hated Mexicans, the guy in Ohio was a left wing, Antifa fan, and supporter of Elizabeth Warren...

Trump blames video games.

FFS


do you have an unbiased news source backing this up.

Or since, as you claim, every news source must have bias, can you cite your source and what you perceive to be the bias inherent and how you interpreted the source to remove bias?

Since you are making the claim. You've apparently done the leg work already. You may as well share.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Muso wrote:
The guy in El Paso hated Mexicans, the guy in Ohio was a left wing, Antifa fan, and supporter of Elizabeth Warren...

Trump blames video games.

FFS


do you have an unbiased news source backing this up.

Or since, as you claim, every news source must have bias, can you cite your source and what you perceive to be the bias inherent and how you interpreted the source to remove bias?

Since you are making the claim. You've apparently done the leg work already. You may as well share.


You really must suck at doing research. Read the El Paso shooter's manifesto, and check out the Ohio shooters social media.

As for Trump blaming video games (and the Internet), I'm sure 2 seconds on a search engine can find the data you need.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe a leftwing journalist can help? Maybe?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Criticism is different.


TDS is different.


Don't have TDS. I didn't like Barry's presidency. Barry was ok. I remember people here complaining that he was using identity politics and stoking racial tension.

Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.


Evidence?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This stuff is a thing?

And the Dallas guy had a less than stellar family unit, but that is still not reason. Well, at least they were not out killing for their gang initiation.

If you're bored go look at Philip Zimbardo's work. I read one of his textbooks. One thing that stood out was his description of the move from committing to drugging as therapy. I had a friend go hard schizophrenic in his early twenties back at the beginning of the eighties. The docs were plenty content to turn him back out on his meds. Even then, he was scary delusional. It was quite a loss as he was a great, helpful guy, before the illness onset.

I'm going back to my curmudgeonly existence. I suppose not all are destined to survive their youth.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.
How the media reports on Trump is what "makes them jealous." Trump is mostly benign if coarse. But put that through the filter of media, and all you hear is their opinion. Everyone knows what the media thinks of him.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Muso wrote:
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Criticism is different.


TDS is different.


Don't have TDS. I didn't like Barry's presidency. Barry was ok. I remember people here complaining that he was using identity politics and stoking racial tension.

Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.

Any policies or Executive Orders to back up your assertion? Or are you just following the media's take?


Trump seems like the least racist guy around. He doesn't see color when he sees stupidity. But I have noticed that those on the left are more likely to judge people by the color of their skin, and not their character or intelligence. If Trump tweets about some stupid position of Chuck Schumer, no big deal. But if he criticizes AOC or Elijah Cummings....... then he must automatically be racist.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it Elijah or someone else who said "Yeah, he crtiicizes white people too, but that's different" (paraphrasing, but pretty close)?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason I can think of why any person would consider Trump racist is if they listened to the media pontificating about what Trump said. If you just view/read/listen to what he actually says, then you'd realize he's brash, but not racist.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the winner of the most ridiculous take on the Ohio shooting goes to... Candice Keller!

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“After every mass shooting, the liberals start the blame game,” Keller wrote in the Facebook post, which had been removed as of early Monday. “Why not place the blame where it belongs?”

Keller’s post goes on to blame “drag queen advocates,” failed school policies, violent video games and children who are raised without fathers as other reasons for the mass shooting that erupted less than 24 hours after 20 people were gunned down at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

The post also claimed that a growing “hatred of our veterans,” a Democratic Congress and a rising culture that “totally ignores the importance of God and the church” were other explanations for the shooting.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the winner of the most ridiculous take on the Ohio shooting goes to... Candice Keller!

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“After every mass shooting, the liberals start the blame game,” Keller wrote in the Facebook post, which had been removed as of early Monday. “Why not place the blame where it belongs?”

Keller’s post goes on to blame “drag queen advocates,” failed school policies, violent video games and children who are raised without fathers as other reasons for the mass shooting that erupted less than 24 hours after 20 people were gunned down at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

The post also claimed that a growing “hatred of our veterans,” a Democratic Congress and a rising culture that “totally ignores the importance of God and the church” were other explanations for the shooting.

I'm supposed to be shooting the place up?
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But not half as dumb as the bump-stock ban. That was complete, reactionary, safety theater.


Indeed. I still think bump stocks are quite stupid. Lose accuracy just so you can waste a bunch of ammo.
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I thought they were all crudely home made. So I'd imagine ayone who wants to make one will find a way. From time tto time, I can understand why someone might enjoy "wasting ammo."
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.


Evidence?


he's the virtue signal king.

Either he's just an idiot and starts stupid fights with NFL players. Or, it's a calculated move. I think the latter.
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Muso wrote:
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Trump makes millenials jealous with his deft handling of identity politics.


Evidence?


he's the virtue signal king.

Either he's just an idiot and starts stupid fights with NFL players. Or, it's a calculated move. I think the latter.

It's very calculated to drive you guys nuts.
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starts stupid fights with NFL players.
Starts, or responds? I'm aware of the latter, but don't keep up with anything on social media, so I'm not aware of the former.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when Trump was talking about Mexican rapists, which study was he referring to?
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starts stupid fights with NFL players.
Starts, or responds? I'm aware of the latter, but don't keep up with anything on social media, so I'm not aware of the former.


It's rather easy for the president to just stay out of it. So, yes, if the president's office is getting into a tiff with the NFL, I think it's fair to say he started it.
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