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sagsaw n00b
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:17 pm Post subject: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 |
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Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn] |
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Muso Veteran
Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 1052 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 |
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sagsaw wrote: | Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn] |
Because there is no real reason to use a live DVD to install Gentoo. The minimal install CD is the standard install iso. _________________ "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think" ~ Dorothy Parker
2021 is the year of the Linux Desktop! |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54216 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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sagsaw,
Welcome to Gentoo.
The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it. You are not supposed to install its contents to a HDD.
To install Gentoo, you need only a few tools. Almost any Linux will do.
A 64 bit install requires a 64 bit kernel.
An EFI install requires the ability to boot in EFI mode to write the EFIvars.
The Gentoo installer is you. _________________ Regards,
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Fitzcarraldo Advocate
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:52 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it. |
It would be nice to have an updated Gentoo DVD demonstrator that uses KDE Plasma 5 rather than KDE 4. _________________ Clevo W230SS: amd64, VIDEO_CARDS="intel modesetting nvidia".
Compal NBLB2: ~amd64, xf86-video-ati. Dual boot Win 7 Pro 64-bit.
OpenRC udev elogind & KDE on both.
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Fitzcarraldo,
The liveDVD is a one man project and I've not seen that one man on IRC for a while.
I do know that the liveDVD is built with catalyst, as is the minimal. It 'just' uses different spec files.
I'm not sure if its all in a public repo or not. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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sagsaw n00b
Joined: 08 Feb 2019 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | sagsaw,
Welcome to Gentoo.
The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it. You are not supposed to install its contents to a HDD.
To install Gentoo, you need only a few tools. Almost any Linux will do.
A 64 bit install requires a 64 bit kernel.
An EFI install requires the ability to boot in EFI mode to write the EFIvars.
The Gentoo installer is you. |
Thank you.
So is there a standar kernel or even that will have to be compiled by scratch?
Also is their support for VIA processors and VX900 chipset and the 2D n 3D graphics?
Can I be able to build a live DVD with a generic kernel or a GENTOO BASED LIVE DISTRO?
Regards,
Sagar |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54216 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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sagsaw,
Idle in #gentoo-ten on freenode. Its quiet there so you need to be there 24/7 but thats where the LiveDVD expertise is.
Also #gentoo-releng may be able to help with more general questions.
Yes, you can repoduce the LiveCD LiveDVD work but I don't know how.
You can cross compile for VIA processors. I don't know the VX900 chipset, so can't comment. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5934
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:52 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | Fitzcarraldo,
The liveDVD is a one man project and I've not seen that one man on IRC for a while.
I do know that the liveDVD is built with catalyst, as is the minimal. It 'just' uses different spec files.
I'm not sure if its all in a public repo or not. |
https://github.com/gentoo/releng/tree/master/releases/weekly/specs/amd64
see livedvd-stage[1|2].spec _________________
Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017 |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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bunder,
I don't think that's the liveDVD that gets discussed in #gentoo-ten _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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wfdawson n00b
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:12 am Post subject: |
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It is a damned shame the LiveDVD is so old. That's all. G'night. |
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k9dog Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 103 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 |
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sagsaw wrote: | Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn] |
Think I get the why .. just tried installing from minimal cd and it just crashed .. discovered it was 2020. Thought I would look for the "go to" from 2016 when things .. Only discovered it was live dvd after I downloaded. Bring back the minimal stables. Can't say I'm impressed with the discarding of old stuff in portage tree either. git doesn't allow to get packages from old portage trees and some stuff begun go missing. Be careful to just discard everything. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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k9dog,
The minimals are auto built about weekly or so for amd64. Other arches vary.
All the old ebuild thats were ever is CVS are still available on line. Either from git or before the git migration, from https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi
The hard bit is getting old source code. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Joined: 23 Dec 2013 Posts: 472 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I just did a test install of Gentoo Xfce on a new box using Gentoo based openrc Calculate Linux instead of Gentoo Install.iso and SystemRescueCd. Worked very well. _________________ Observation after 30 years working with computers:
All software has known and unknown bugs and vulnerabilities. Especially software written in complex, unstable and object oriented languages such as perl, python, C++, C#, Rust and the likes. |
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