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Naib
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Naib,

Do you have somewhere to host your ISO?
just got back from a weekend away...
As of yet no (could use my github for now), but first things first it has to boot :) this might just be my host OS has no kvm (de-selected a few kernels back thinking I don't need it anymore)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib,

You could actually burn a CD :)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Naib,

You could actually burn a CD :)
yes I could :) I don't know if I have any :)

That said it was the hostOS lacking KVM support. the ISO boots in virtualbox (black window with qemu so I might look into that).

But it works !
I want to loop back and double-check the steps and then ill start adding some basic packages to get a simple xsession working and take it from there
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys

SystemRescueCD 5.3.2.1 (based on SystemRescueCD 5.3.2)

I managed SYRCD-5.3.2 and rebuild/update all basesystem and adding some extra packages
Some packages pushed extra dependencies and the size grows up.

I kept the kernel version (4.14.80) .

Code:
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5.3.2.1 (2019-04-27):

  Major security issues fixed : https://bugs.gentoo.org/683724
* Updated sys-libs/glibc-2.28-r6
* Updated dev-libs/glib-2.58-r3
* Updated net-misc/curl-7.64.1
* Updated net-misc/openssh-7.9_p1-r4
* Updated net-misc/wget-1.20.3
* Updated app-arch/unzip-6.0_p21-r2
* Updated dev-libs/openssl-1.0.2r

* Updated sys-block/gpartd 0.33.0
* Updated sys-devel/gcc-8.2.0-r6
* Updated Xorg environment and drivers to x11-base/xorg-server-1.20.4
* Updated media-libs/mesa-18.3.6 and its LLVM dependencies
* Added app-forensics/air-2.0.0-r2 (A dcfldd GUI)
* Added app-antivirus/clamav and its graphical frontend app-antivirus/clamtk
* Minor updates


Packages list
Code:
app-admin/hddtemp-0.3_beta15-r27
app-admin/ide-smart-1.4-r2
app-admin/keepassxc-2.3.4-r1
app-admin/mcelog-161
app-admin/passook-20121001
app-admin/procinfo-ng-2.0.304-r1
app-admin/pwgen-2.08
app-admin/syslog-ng-3.17.2
app-admin/sysstat-11.4.0
app-admin/testdisk-7.1_pre20180922
app-antivirus/clamav-0.101.2
app-antivirus/clamtk-6.00
app-arch/afio-2.5.1-r2
app-arch/arj-3.10.22-r7
app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6-r11
app-arch/cabextract-1.9-r2
app-arch/cfv-1.18.3-r1
app-arch/cpio-2.12-r1
app-arch/dpkg-1.19.0.5
app-arch/dump-0.4.46
app-arch/gzip-1.9
app-arch/lbzip2-2.5-r1
app-arch/lrzip-0.621
app-arch/lz4-1.8.3
app-arch/lzip-1.21
app-arch/lzop-1.04
app-arch/mt-st-1.3
app-arch/ncompress-4.2.4.4
app-arch/p7zip-16.02-r4
app-arch/par2cmdline-0.7.3
app-arch/pbzip2-1.1.12
app-arch/pigz-2.4
app-arch/pixz-1.0.6
app-arch/pxz-5.0_pre20151029
app-arch/rpm-4.14.1
app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.5g
app-arch/rzip-2.1-r3
app-arch/sharutils-4.15.2-r1
app-arch/tar-1.32
app-arch/unace-2.5-r5
app-arch/unrar-5.7.4
app-arch/unshield-1.4
app-arch/unzip-6.0_p21-r2
app-arch/xz-utils-5.2.4-r2
app-arch/zip-3.0-r3
app-arch/zstd-1.3.7-r1
app-backup/bacula-9.0.8-r1
app-backup/borgbackup-1.1.8
app-backup/dar-2.6.2
app-backup/duplicity-0.7.10
app-backup/fsarchiver-0.8.5
app-backup/rsnapshot-1.4.2
app-backup/tob-0.26-r2
app-benchmarks/bonnie++-1.97.3
app-benchmarks/cpuburn-1.4a-r1
app-benchmarks/iozone-3.471
app-benchmarks/stress-1.0.4-r1
app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1-r3
app-cdr/isomaster-1.3.13
app-cdr/xfburn-0.5.5
app-crypt/chntpw-140201
app-crypt/md5deep-4.4
app-crypt/nwipe-0.25
app-crypt/yubikey-manager-2.1.0
app-editors/gvim-8.0.1298
app-editors/hexcurse-1.55
app-editors/hexedit-1.2.13
app-editors/joe-4.6
app-editors/nano-3.2
app-editors/qemacs-0.4.1_pre20170225
app-editors/vim-8.0.1298
app-editors/vim-core-8.0.1298
app-editors/zile-2.4.11
app-forensics/afflib-3.7.18
app-forensics/air-2.0.0-r2
app-forensics/chkrootkit-0.52
app-forensics/cmospwd-5.1-r1
app-forensics/foremost-1.5.7-r3
app-forensics/magicrescue-1.1.9
app-misc/beep-1.3-r3
app-misc/ckermit-8.0.211-r4
app-misc/colordiff-1.0.18
app-misc/emelfm2-0.9.1-r1
app-misc/fdupes-1.5.1
app-misc/livecd-tools-2.5
app-misc/mc-4.8.22
app-misc/screen-4.6.1
app-misc/scrub-2.6.1
app-misc/symlinks-1.4-r3
app-misc/tmux-2.7
app-misc/vlock-2.2.3-r1
app-misc/wipe-2.3.1
app-portage/cpuid2cpuflags-5
app-portage/eix-0.33.7
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.2-r1
app-portage/mirrorselect-2.2.3
app-portage/portage-utils-0.74
app-shells/bash-4.4_p23-r1
app-shells/bash-completion-2.8
app-shells/gentoo-bashcomp-20180302
app-shells/ksh-93.20180331
app-shells/tcsh-6.20.00
app-shells/zsh-5.6.2
app-text/dos2unix-7.3.5
app-text/tree-1.7.0
app-text/wgetpaste-2.28-r2
app-vim/gentoo-syntax-20181023
dev-cpp/atkmm-2.24.2
dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1
dev-cpp/glibmm-2.56.1
dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.5
dev-cpp/gtkmm-3.24.0
dev-cpp/pangomm-2.42.0
dev-lang/python-2.7.15
dev-lang/python-3.6.5
dev-lang/ruby-2.4.5
dev-libs/expat-2.2.6
dev-libs/icu-63.1-r1
dev-libs/libconfig-1.5
dev-libs/libdnet-1.12
dev-libs/libisoburn-1.5.0
dev-libs/libltdl-2.4.6
dev-libs/libusb-1.0.21
dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.9
dev-libs/lzo-2.10
dev-libs/nspr-4.20
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.2r
dev-libs/popt-1.16-r2
dev-perl/XML-SAX-Base-1.90.0
dev-perl/YAML-Syck-1.300.0
dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.3-r2
dev-qt/qtdbus-5.11.3
dev-qt/qtgui-5.11.3
dev-qt/qtnetwork-5.11.3
dev-util/cmake-3.14.3
dev-util/debootstrap-1.0.89
dev-util/geany-1.30.1
dev-util/ltrace-0.7.3_p4
dev-util/ninja-1.8.2
dev-util/patchutils-0.3.4
dev-util/pkgconfig-0.29.2
dev-util/strace-4.25
gnome-extra/nm-applet-1.8.20
lxde-base/lxrandr-0.3.1-r1
media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.3-r1
media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.3-r1
media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.3-r1
media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3-r1
media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.1.2-r1
media-fonts/terminus-font-4.46
media-libs/mesa-18.3.6
net-analyzer/dnstracer-1.9-r2
net-analyzer/httping-2.5
net-analyzer/ifstat-1.1-r2
net-analyzer/iftop-1.0_pre4-r2
net-analyzer/iptraf-ng-1.1.4-r1
net-analyzer/macchanger-1.7.0
net-analyzer/netcat-110-r9
net-analyzer/ngrep-1.45-r3
net-analyzer/nmap-7.70
net-analyzer/tcpdump-4.9.2
net-analyzer/tcptraceroute-1.5_beta7-r2
net-analyzer/traceroute-2.1.0
net-analyzer/vnstat-1.17
net-dialup/linux-atm-2.5.2
net-dialup/mingetty-1.08-r1
net-dialup/minicom-2.7.1
net-dialup/ppp-2.4.7-r7
net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.21
net-dialup/pptpclient-1.10.0
net-dialup/rp-pppoe-3.12-r1
net-dns/bind-tools-9.12.3_p4
net-firewall/iptables-1.6.1-r3
net-fs/curlftpfs-0.9.2-r3
net-fs/nfs-utils-2.3.3
net-fs/samba-4.8.6-r2
net-fs/sshfs-2.10-r1
net-ftp/ftp-0.17.23.0.2.1
net-ftp/lftp-4.8.4-r1
net-ftp/ncftp-3.2.6
net-ftp/tftp-hpa-5.2-r1
net-irc/irssi-1.2.0-r2
net-misc/autossh-1.4e
net-misc/bridge-utils-1.5
net-misc/dhcp-4.4.1
net-misc/dhcpcd-7.1.1-r1
net-misc/ethercard-diag-20050321.1g-r1
net-misc/ifenslave-1.1.0-r6
net-misc/iperf-3.1.3
net-misc/iputils-20180629
net-misc/modemmanager-1.8.2-r1
net-misc/netifrc-0.5.1
net-misc/netkit-rsh-0.17-r10
net-misc/networkmanager-1.16.0
net-misc/ntp-4.2.8_p13
net-misc/openssh-7.9_p1-r4
net-misc/pssh-2.3.1-r1
net-misc/rdate-1.4-r4
net-misc/rdesktop-1.8.4-r1
net-misc/rsync-3.1.3
net-misc/telnet-bsd-1.2-r1
net-misc/tigervnc-1.9.0-r1
net-misc/udpcast-20120424
net-misc/vconfig-1.9
net-misc/wget-1.20.3
net-misc/whois-5.3.2
net-misc/wput-0.6.1-r1
net-nds/openldap-2.4.45
net-vpn/ipsec-tools-0.8.2-r5
net-vpn/networkmanager-openvpn-1.8.10
net-vpn/networkmanager-vpnc-1.2.6
net-vpn/openvpn-2.4.6
net-vpn/vpnc-0.5.3_p550
net-wireless/b43-fwcutter-019
net-wireless/bcm43xx-fwcutter-006
net-wireless/iw-4.9
net-wireless/wireless-tools-30_pre9
net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.6-r10
sys-apps/acl-2.2.52-r1
sys-apps/attr-2.4.47-r2
sys-apps/baselayout-2.6-r1
sys-apps/busybox-1.29.3
sys-apps/cciss_vol_status-1.12
sys-apps/coreutils-8.30
sys-apps/dcfldd-1.3.4.1-r1
sys-apps/debianutils-4.8.3
sys-apps/diffutils-3.6-r1
sys-apps/dmapi-2.2.12-r1
sys-apps/dmidecode-3.1
sys-apps/dstat-0.7.3
sys-apps/ed-1.14.2
sys-apps/ethtool-4.19
sys-apps/fbset-2.1
sys-apps/file-5.36
sys-apps/findutils-4.6.0-r1
sys-apps/flashrom-0.9.8
sys-apps/fxload-20081013-r1
sys-apps/gawk-4.2.1-r1
sys-apps/gptfdisk-1.0.3
sys-apps/grep-3.1-r1
sys-apps/groff-1.22.3
sys-apps/hdparm-9.56
sys-apps/hwids-20180917
sys-apps/hwsetup-1.2-r3
sys-apps/ipmitool-1.8.17-r1
sys-apps/iproute2-4.17.0-r1
sys-apps/kbd-2.0.4
sys-apps/less-531
sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.5.0
sys-apps/lshw-02.18b
sys-apps/man-1.6g-r1
sys-apps/man-pages-4.16
sys-apps/memtester-4.3.0
sys-apps/mlocate-0.26-r2
sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20180626073013
sys-apps/netplug-1.2.9.2-r2
sys-apps/nvme-cli-1.6-r1
sys-apps/openrc-0.38.3-r1
sys-apps/pcmciautils-018_p8-r1
sys-apps/portage-2.3.62
sys-apps/pv-1.6.6
sys-apps/rename-1.3-r2
sys-apps/renameutils-0.12.0
sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.57-r1
sys-apps/sdparm-1.10
sys-apps/sed-4.5
sys-apps/setserial-2.17-r5
sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.42
sys-apps/shadow-4.6
sys-apps/smartmontools-7.0-r1
sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6.22-r1
sys-apps/udevil-0.4.4-r3
sys-apps/usb_modeswitch-2.5.2
sys-apps/usbutils-009
sys-apps/util-linux-2.33-r1
sys-apps/which-2.21
sys-apps/x86info-1.30
sys-auth/pambase-20150213-r2
sys-auth/yubikey-personalization-gui-3.1.25
sys-block/gpart-0.1h-r2
sys-block/gparted-0.33.0
sys-block/mbuffer-20181119
sys-block/mpt-status-1.2.0-r1
sys-block/ms-sys-2.6.0
sys-block/mtx-1.3.12
sys-block/nbd-3.18
sys-block/open-iscsi-2.0.873-r1
sys-block/parted-3.2_p20-r1
sys-block/partimage-0.6.9
sys-block/scsiadd-1.97-r1
sys-block/whdd-3.0
sys-boot/efibootmgr-16
sys-boot/grub-2.02-r3
sys-boot/lilo-24.0-r1
sys-boot/mbr-1.1.11-r1
sys-boot/os-prober-1.76-r1
sys-boot/syslinux-6.04_pre1
sys-cluster/drbd-utils-8.9.6-r1
sys-cluster/glusterfs-4.1.5
sys-devel/bc-1.06.95-r2
sys-devel/binutils-2.31.1-r4
sys-devel/crossdev-20181202
sys-devel/gcc-8.2.0-r6
sys-devel/gnuconfig-20170101
sys-devel/libtool-2.4.6-r3
sys-devel/make-4.2.1-r4
sys-devel/patch-2.7.6-r3
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sys-firmware/ipw2100-firmware-1.3
sys-firmware/ipw2200-firmware-3.1
sys-firmware/zd1201-firmware-0.14
sys-firmware/zd1211-firmware-1.5
sys-fs/aufs-util-4.14_p20180709
sys-fs/btrfs-progs-4.19
sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.7.5-r1
sys-fs/dd-rescue-1.99.8
sys-fs/ddrescue-1.21-r1
sys-fs/diskdev_cmds-332.14_p1
sys-fs/dmraid-1.0.0_rc16-r3
sys-fs/dosfstools-4.1
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sys-fs/eudev-3.2.5
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sys-fs/extundelete-0.2.4
sys-fs/fuse-exfat-1.3.0
sys-fs/growpart-0.0.30
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sys-fs/lufs-0.9.7-r3
sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.183
sys-fs/mac-fdisk-0.1-r7
sys-fs/mdadm-4.1
sys-fs/mtd-utils-1.5.2
sys-fs/multipath-tools-0.6.4-r1
sys-fs/ncdu-1.13
sys-fs/nilfs-utils-2.2.2
sys-fs/ntfs3g-2017.3.23-r2
sys-fs/reiser4progs-1.1.0
sys-fs/reiserfsprogs-3.6.27
sys-fs/safecopy-1.7
sys-fs/squashfs-tools-4.3_p7
sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0
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sys-fs/zerofree-1.0.4
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sys-process/psmisc-23.1-r1
sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r15
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virtual/editor-0-r2
virtual/libc-1
virtual/man-0-r2
virtual/modutils-0
virtual/os-headers-0
virtual/package-manager-1
virtual/pager-0
virtual/service-manager-0
virtual/shadow-0
virtual/ssh-0
www-client/elinks-0.12_pre6-r1
www-client/firefox-bin-66.0.3
www-servers/thttpd-2.27.1
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x11-apps/xcalc-1.0.6
x11-apps/xdpyinfo-1.3.2
x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.6
x11-apps/xhost-1.0.8
x11-apps/xinit-1.4.0-r1
x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.4.2
x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.10
x11-apps/xrandr-1.5.0
x11-apps/xset-1.2.4
x11-apps/xwd-1.0.7
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x11-base/xorg-proto-2018.4
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x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.9.0
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x11-libs/libSM-1.2.3
x11-libs/libX11-1.6.7
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x11-libs/libXcursor-1.2.0
x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.5
x11-libs/libXdmcp-1.1.3
x11-libs/libXext-1.3.4
x11-libs/libXfixes-5.0.3-r1
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x11-libs/libXft-2.3.3
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x11-libs/libXmu-1.1.3
x11-libs/libXrandr-1.5.2
x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.10-r1
x11-libs/libXres-1.2.0-r1
x11-libs/libXt-1.1.5-r1
x11-libs/libXv-1.0.11-r1
x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.11
x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.4
x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.4-r1
x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.97
x11-libs/libfontenc-1.1.4
x11-libs/libxkbfile-1.1.0
x11-libs/libxshmfence-1.3-r1
x11-libs/wxGTK-3.0.4-r300
x11-libs/xtrans-1.4.0
x11-misc/grsync-1.2.6
x11-misc/read-edid-3.0.2
x11-misc/xbitmaps-1.1.2-r1
x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.26-r1
x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.8.7.4
x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90-r1
x11-wm/jwm-2.3.2
xfce-base/exo-0.12.4
xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.13.4
xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.13.2
xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.12-r1
xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.12.2
xfce-base/xfconf-4.12.1-r1
xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-plugin-1.1.2
xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.7.0
xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.4.3-r1
xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager-1.2.2
xfce-extra/xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.6.0



A torrent is available on my dropbox folder
Code:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w035w7alq4rog4v/SystemRescueCD-5.3.2.1.iso.torrent?dl=0


Magnet
Code:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8a30cb3960fc4efb24e19df26e339975e2a103f1&dn=SystemRescueCD-5.3.2.1.iso&tr=http%3A%2F%2F0d.kebhana.mx%3A443%2Fannounce



Just for fun. Feel free to manage/update ...

Good Luck and Happy new rescue

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabayonino,

Its probably a bad idea to keep the SystemRescueCD name.
That might upset the SystemRescueCD project.

Thank you for keeping this alive.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right.
But I've update sysrcd.dat only.
There was many conflicts and errors that I solved upgrading profile , gcc + glibc binutils and some other stuffs and keep the original make.conf as much as possible.

I did this just for my fun and I don't think I'm going any further. Maybe I forgot some things during the upgrading phase.
I'm not a coder .

Original code is available on SourceForge

If you believe that there are problems with the torrent sharing I will stop it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
sabayonino,

Its probably a bad idea to keep the SystemRescueCD name.
That might upset the SystemRescueCD project.

Thank you for keeping this alive.

GentooRescueCD if the Gods of Gentoo permit. Perhaps they will allow it to be an official project with a designated proxy maintainer?

EDIT:
GRescueCD or just RescueCD if they do not. Although RedHat may object to prefixing with a G.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer... I keep meaning to get back to this... I do have a new ISO generatable and bootable. I wanted to take a week off to then ensure I could then reproduce my steps... but 1week turned into quite some time - damn real life
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony0945,

Gentoo uses the 'e' prefix everywhere. ebuild, eudev, eselect, emerge, ...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still working on my funny work :lol:
Simply unsquashing data and chroot-in and rebuild the ISO

GentooRescue

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6816/tJQvAP.png
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1861/K3YbKQ.png
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4983/QAiv3I.png

I'm Learning how to upgrade the kernel images for both architectures :P
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Nice work, sabayonino!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabayonino,

I'll draw your attention to Gentoo name and logo usage guidelines
In effect it says you need permission to use the Gentoo name.

May as well get these things out of the way early.
As a past trustee of Gentoo Foundation, Inc., I have an interest in these things. I cannot speak for the current board.

The Gentoo Foundation, Inc. exists to facilitate these sort of things without making the name and logo public domain, like the walking fingers and other marks and logos.

Well done! Its looking good.
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To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
In effect it says you need permission to use the Gentoo name.

I'm not a lawyer, but from your link:
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Products and services serving the community

You may incorporate the Gentoo name into any website or product whose purpose is to organize, educate or inform the Gentoo community, provided that:

The website or product does not use the Gentoo logo or mimic the official sites in its design, except as provided for by earlier sections in this license;
The website or product does not imply that it is official or otherwise endorsed by the Gentoo Foundation, Inc.
If a fee is to be charged for the product, or for access to any or all of the material on the website, a clear statement must exist declaring what proportion of those fees will be retained by the authors, and what proportion, if any, will be contributed back to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc. A link to this statement must be prominently displayed on the website or product.
Emphasis by me. A clear statement, perhaps on every page that this is unofficial and not sanctioned by the Foundation nor the Council Products
should be sufficient. Or do you hold that "gentoo" should be referred to as "that which cannot be named"? I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

Regarding domain names, I have registered the domain "oldgentoo.net" and if I ever put a website on it, I will prominently display disclaimers.
To me this is like a website selling speed equipment and mentioning that it is for use on Chevrolet or Ford engines.
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Fitzcarraldo wrote:
To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?

You might get blowback from whoever owns the trademark.
But note on their own website the FAQ You can make your own version of SystemRecueCd. Add your own files, inside or outside the main file system (sysrcd.dat).

I would make clear that this is a derivative work.

EDIT:
Well well, it seems that you can't call your own distro "XXXXX Linux". https://www.linuxmark.org/programs/legal/trademark/faq

"Tony's Distro" I'm asserting the right to that trademark right now.

EDIT2:
I'd best dump that registration and forget about distributig those copyrighted works (old ebuilds). so much for the spirit of open software.
I guess it would be legal to have a binary distro based on Gentoo as long as it didn't mention Gentoo or Linux.
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Fitzcarraldo wrote:
To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?

I would agree to that, not to get around the Gentoo name per the restriction, but more to not tag it as Gentoo.

That sysrecuecd was great because (gentoo base or not) it was doing the work for any distros, now with the arch problem (no 32bits, no more on one CD, and systemd) it has lost its value.

You should keep a generic name, because it was great for everyone, not just gentoo users.
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krinn wrote:
You should keep a generic name, because it was great for everyone, not just gentoo users.

I'll second that.
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NeddySeagoon wrote:
sabayonino,

I'll draw your attention to Gentoo name and logo usage guidelines
In effect it says you need permission to use the Gentoo name.

May as well get these things out of the way early.
As a past trustee of Gentoo Foundation, Inc., I have an interest in these things. I cannot speak for the current board.

The Gentoo Foundation, Inc. exists to facilitate these sort of things without making the name and logo public domain, like the walking fingers and other marks and logos.

Well done! Its looking good.

Tnx for your explain. I'll keep in mind.
At the moment I'm not sharing anything. (Only srcd 5.3.2.1 torrent)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitzcarraldo wrote:
To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?


This is just sad. "Get around the Gentoo name"? Shouldn't Gentoo be welcoming these kind of grassroots, community driven efforts? SMH. Things are worse than I thought.
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berferd,

Its rock/hard place. If gentoo does not protect its name/logo, they become public domain.

The proposed disclaimer works.
An email to the trustees works too. At worst, they can say "no".

Personally, I would be wary of anything that uses the Gentoo or SystemRescueCD names, or even looks like it was derived from them.


Tony0945,

There is no issue with your oldgentoo.net.
You post the disclaimer.
You host the ebuilds with the copyright notices intact.
The ebuilds all say
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so hosting is allowed.
Everyone is happy.
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berferd wrote:
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?
This is just sad. "Get around the Gentoo name"? Shouldn't Gentoo be welcoming these kind of grassroots, community driven efforts? SMH. Things are worse than I thought.
Speaking in a personal capacity, not as a moderator:

Would you automatically welcome anyone who wants to come in and use your name on a project, when you have no control over whether such usage will meet your standards for quality? What if, through negligence, malice, or simple inexperience, that person brought shame to the project by releasing a dangerously broken build?

I'm glad to see someone trying to carry on the SystemRescue project, and I hope he has both the time and experience to make the result a credit to himself and to the projects on which it is based. However, with no way to guarantee that he will continue meeting that standard for as long as the project exists, I can't blame the trustees for being cautious about how the Gentoo name is used.
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berferd wrote:
This is just sad. "Get around the Gentoo name"? Shouldn't Gentoo be welcoming these kind of grassroots, community driven efforts? SMH. Things are worse than I thought.
Are there projects that do allow unrestricted use of their name?

Is this an imaginary problem, or has someone asked as was suggested?

Example:
Front page of gentoostudio.org wrote:
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Gentoo Studio is not an official project of the Gentoo Foundation, [...]

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pjp,

Some projects have two sets of names and or logos. One reserved for the 'official project' one for the community to use.
Gentoo doesn't do this although znurt and larry the cow might come close.
Neither are registered marks of Gentoo.

What we are really discussing here is a fork.
OpenOffice became libreoffice
Xfree86 became Xorg
and so on ...

My point is to get this fork off to a sound start without upsetting the project it was forked from, nor the project whose toolkit will be used to build it.
Name changes later will be a PITA.
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First of all, I wish say: "thank you" to sabayonino for keeping the rescue project based on gentoo.

NeddySeagoon wrote:
I'll draw your attention to Gentoo name and logo usage guidelines
In effect it says you need permission to use the Gentoo name.

English is not my native language and I'm not a lawyer, but in my opinion, the name "gentoo rescue" don't need the approval of Gentoo Foundation for two concurrent reason:
1)
Quote:
It is also important to note that this license only applies if you intend to use (or are already using) a trademark of your own that incorporates the Gentoo name, and/or incorporates the official logo/colors of the Gentoo project. If your usage of the Gentoo name is purely nominative, you don’t need to license the Gentoo trademark - nominative use is an allowed use under trademark law.

If sabayonino will make clear that "gentoo rescue" is a unofficial project based on gentoo distribution, I think the first condition will be respected.
I have the same opinion of Tony0945.

AND

2)
Quote:
You may use the Gentoo name and logo on a list of services, tools, or supported platforms, or as an identifier that a product or service is Gentoo-related, provided that the usage of the name and/or logo does not imply that the organization is official or otherwise endorsed by the Gentoo Foundation, Inc., or by the Gentoo project, and that the name and/or logo acts as a hyperlink to the main Gentoo project website wherever technically possible.

I can't find any "rescue" project on official gentoo website. So, using the term "rescue" in the name, there is no conflict with other official projects.

Please, double check what I wrote: I can misunderstood the terms of Gentoo name and logo usage guidelines. TIA.

Keep in mind that, so far, I don't have checked the license of SystemRescueCD.
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Fitzcarraldo wrote:
To get around the Gentoo name restriction, how about 'SysRescueToo'?

I like Fitzcarraldo's proposal
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