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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pun_guin wrote:
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I haven't considered how to address the different versions / locations of "boot environment."


Ah, one of the few things which Solaris has always done right while Linux still struggles ... :)
Always?!? 8O Solaris 10 (eventually) did it right (by a definition of right). But then only because of ZFS.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hereby step back from my previous statement about Solaris.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I joined these forums a long time ago, back when i was at uni i had Gentoo on an old Macbook, i struggled i was inexperienced however i kept going. I tried and used other distro's over the years however always came back to Gentoo. I'm now at a point it's my daily driver on my desktop and it's flawless.

Like others have said you would have to seriously neglect your box for it to break, I've got zero issues apart from the odd conflict in portage which is resolvable, and these forums are second to none in terms of expertise.

Although i'll say bye i'm sure you'll return at some point.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't the compile times as much as the frustration of trying to compile at all because of blockers. If only there was an easy way to update the unblocked without having to type them manually.
You have to admit that portage error messages can be pretty cryptic if not downright misleading as like when portage advises you to unmask a 9999 version, almost always the wrong solution and for my money I could strike out "almost". I spent about three hours this week on the talloc/tevent problem. It took a long time because it took about ten minutes for portage to ruminate on world update, list twenty packages then barfed. I do blame myself, because I had this same talloc/tevent problem on another machine last month and I was too tired/lazy/stupid to ssh into that machine and grep /etc/portage for for talloc and tevent to see how I solved it before. I did this the next morning, changed two lines in package.mask, then portage ruminated for a very very long time, produced a list of 87 updates and then proceeded to install them. Took about three hours to compile. I could have been compiling while I slept if my brain had been in gear.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can delete your posts as long they are the last one in the thread ... whoops! Not any more.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose I could, but the then
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm67 wrote:
I am actually fancing about a distcc container to emerge in cloud, that would be nice :-)


Great idea! Have you actually tried setting this up?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well only partially, I dockerized everything on the home server and run the containers on 2 arm boards, kubler itself runs in a container, so yes emerge runs in the (small) cloud that I administer using portainer. The trouble came when I attempted to use docker swarm to have the containers run transparently on one of the boards (aka poor man cluster), networking became too slow and it required too much memory.
So now I manually start the containers on one of the 2 boards with portainer. I could setup a distcc container and start it on the other board but I haven't, yet.... It should not be too difficult.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was there ever one of these threads where the response was "oh no! Please tell us what we can do to make you stay and we will change it!!!! Please please please"? Like ever?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My solution for easier updates was to move from unstable to stable. With stabe I don't get as much new updates per month as with unstable. And sometimes I've been running quite a long time without updating any packages. Haven't really stumbled into any hard problems.

In fact... Gentoo is propably only rolling release distro with rock solid stable releases. My server especially. I couldn't even dream something like this with Arch Linux.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiderPigLoki wrote:
Was there ever one of these threads where the response was "oh no! Please tell us what we can do to make you stay and we will change it!!!! Please please please"? Like ever?
People who post these threads don't usually demonstrate an interest in addressing the issues (which may be a user misunderstanding). I've seen some constructive discussion, but no one is going to "beg" to help someone who isn't constructively asking for help (or worse).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two reasons to leave Gentoo.

A. It does not fit my needs.
B. I can't manage it.

People with reason A do not start threads like this.
People with reason B are trying to convince themselves (and everybody else) they are doing it for reason A.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
There are two reasons to leave Gentoo.

A. It does not fit my needs.
B. I can't manage it.

People with reason A do not start threads like this.
People with reason B are trying to convince themselves (and everybody else) they are doing it for reason A.

Brought to mind Jack Nicholson "You can't handle the truth!"
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1clue wrote:
Although it's curious how someone was a gentoo user for 15 years and only joins the forum on the day he sends his goodbye rant.


Good point!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zucca wrote:
My solution for easier updates was to move from unstable to stable. With stabe I don't get as much new updates per month as with unstable. And sometimes I've been running quite a long time without updating any packages. Haven't really stumbled into any hard problems.

In fact... Gentoo is propably only rolling release distro with rock solid stable releases. My server especially. I couldn't even dream something like this with Arch Linux.


^^ this. Whenever I do have issues, it's something that I've marked ~amd64. How surprising that packages which haven't been marked stable could provide instability! And I'm not having a go here -- packages have to be tested. It's not like I had a better experience when running a testing version of Debian, many moons ago. If you don't have the time/energy to deal with breakage, just go stable. Even right now, I'm having a compilation issue with VirtualBox because... it's ~amd64! No need to cry about it though, just
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez. I had to leave the forums for a while because life got in the way.

I come back, and we still have whiners who think they're special.

Almost like I was never away.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently cheese is one of the best foods to help unlock a wine’s full flavor potential. :P
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