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lk42pro
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 4:13 am    Post subject: vmware Reply with quote

does anyone use that? can i ask anyone for help? ever since the 1st public version of vmware i have never got it to work...do i have to reinstall linux under a linux guest system in vmware?everytime i tried to run linux under windows2000/xp and boot it up it can't seem to read my lilo under mbr....it always say unable to find system file or something...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: vmware Reply with quote

lk42pro wrote:
does anyone use that? can i ask anyone for help? ever since the 1st public version of vmware i have never got it to work...do i have to reinstall linux under a linux guest system in vmware?everytime i tried to run linux under windows2000/xp and boot it up it can't seem to read my lilo under mbr....it always say unable to find system file or something...


I believe the best way is to install the guest OS from scratch inside a virtual disk. Running a OS allready installed by using "real" disks has never worked for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 5:57 pm    Post subject: vmware Reply with quote

I'd have to agree. Installing the OS from scratch on the VM is the only way I have ever got VMWare to work. Very impressive when it does though. Shame about the price, anyone know of any similar open source offerings?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotten great results from VMWare also ... I was thinking about buying it, but they removed the $99 Personal edition. :(

While I havn't tried them: bochs (x86 IA-32 emu) and plex86 (which is more like what vmware provides).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 2:10 pm    Post subject: everything is fine Reply with quote

for me, vmware workes perfect, i can boot virtual as well as real disks without any problems, beside the price...

greets philipp
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: everything is fine Reply with quote

schmidp wrote:
for me, vmware workes perfect, i can boot virtual as well as real disks without any problems, beside the price...

greets philipp


how do you get vm to detect ur lilo/grub menu upon bootup?

whats your config like? for the virtual op.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 8:44 am    Post subject: out of the box Reply with quote

it just works out of the box, just follow the install wizard, the only thing you have configure outside of vmware, is the read/write access to your real disk (e.g. /dev/hda).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem with using "real disks" is that VMware acts like a standard (hacked) BIOS, simulating a virutal chipset and other different peripherals (sound and network come to mind) that are most likely not compatible with what your operating system was expecting. Linux tends to fare pretty well (depending on your setup), but Win95 and NT4 are pretty much hopeless. Win98 and Win2k seem to be more robust, but still, it's basically the same thing as removing your hard drive, picking some random person's PC, swapping out disks, and hoping for everything to work right -- it won't.

That aside, people are complaining about the price. My advice: get over it. It is rather expensive, but if you don't like it, don't use it. If you need it to do business, great, go buy it. Also, if you're in any way affiliated with an educational institution (both students and employees), you're eligible for educational pricing, which cuts off a couple hundred bucks.
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