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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is death valley temps. I have suffered through 28-30 C for about a month in may-start of june, but 42+, that must be unbearably hot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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42.2 C here right now.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'd permanently move into the shower if I had to deal with that. We peaked at 30C earlier today and it's just horrible. The night heat is even worse though, even though it cools off, the humidity flies up. Nasty AF.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BonezTheGoon wrote:
42.2 C here right now.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'd permanently move into the shower if I had to deal with that. We peaked at 30C earlier today and it's just horrible. The night heat is even worse though, even though it cools off, the humidity flies up. Nasty AF.
What's your humidity level? It matters a lot. I'm good until ~110F (~43.3 degrees Commie) with near zero humidity. But with humidity, even cool temperatures can be awful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. I'm headed to North Carolina tomorrow and it's in the 90s there with a real feel of over 100. I hate high humidity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it. Nothing unusual with those temps, don't you guys have AC???
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't get it. Nothing unusual with those temps, don't you guys have AC???


I have a window ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's your humidity level? It matters a lot. I'm good until ~110F (~43.3 degrees Commie) with near zero humidity. But with humidity, even cool temperatures can be awful.

Yesterday was between 43 and 71%.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't get it. Nothing unusual with those temps, don't you guys have AC???

No, stifling heat is too uncommon to be worth spending money on residential air conditioning hardware. So they're hard to come by and expensive. Which makes it even less worth spending money on.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
Koala Kid wrote:
I don't get it. Nothing unusual with those temps, don't you guys have AC???

No, stifling heat is too uncommon to be worth spending money on residential air conditioning hardware. So they're hard to come by and expensive. Which makes it even less worth spending money on.


Yeah just get a fan bro and keep some windows open for a cross breeze
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's your humidity level? It matters a lot. I'm good until ~110F (~43.3 degrees Commie) with near zero humidity. But with humidity, even cool temperatures can be awful.


Yesterday when I posted that it was ~50% humidity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd permanently move into the shower if I had to deal with that. We peaked at 30C earlier today and it's just horrible. The night heat is even worse though, even though it cools off, the humidity flies up. Nasty AF.


I want to permanently move OUT of this state! Alas, I am stuck here for the foreseeable future.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today already 30C at 9:00 AM local time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
Yesterday was between 43 and 71%.
30 °C "isn't that bad," but I don't think this chart does the "feels like" factor any justice. 30 °C @ 71% is supposedly like 35 °C .

Heat index table wrote:
For example, if the air temperature is 96 °F / 36 °C and the relative humidity is 65%, the heat index is 121 °F / 49 °C.


BonezTheGoon wrote:
Yesterday when I posted that it was ~50% humidity.
In NM? Measured? :P

At 108F, the chart only bothers with 40% / 130F and 45% / 137F, though I'm skeptical of that as credible.


I've spent the majority of my life in humidity, and it is "hell on earth." Perhaps that combined with (relatively) horrific winters make me grateful for the dry heat :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In NM? Measured? :P


Yes it was measured. (I don't bother trying to approximate such things -- I don't trust my own perception to that level)

One can certainly question whether the device doing the measuring was/is properly calibrated. It was measured by a device (admittedly a very cheap one) I have in my yard. However over nearly a decade of comparing its results to those of "more official" and much more expensive devices it seems to be well within sane tolerances.

And yes, your informed skepticism is well warranted! Typically the same device indicates roughly 15 to 20 percent humidity. I blame peoplekind for yesterday's humidity. We haven't had enough rain to make it so -- must be sprinklers, misters, lawns, pools, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, you could always live here:

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Minimum-Temperature-426-C-1087-F-Oman-June-26-2018-New-World-Record?cm_ven=hp-slot-3

Minimum. Think about that carefully. A minimum temperature of 42.6C / 108.7F
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In a land that is using Celsius and the metric system pretty thoroughly why this strange deviation? Care to answer that mystery for me?
It's quite peculiar and a question that I have no answer for. It's probably more that the old people are used to the speed in their car being miles an hour and would have problems with speeding if it was changed
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep. I'm headed to North Carolina tomorrow and it's in the 90s there with a real feel of over 100. I hate high humidity.
water is almost boiling at that temperature!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep. I'm headed to North Carolina tomorrow and it's in the 90s there with a real feel of over 100. I hate high humidity.
water is almost boiling at that temperature!


Nah, that insidiously inorganic chemical known as dihydrogen monoxide (see http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html for more information) is known to have really strange behavior in North Carolina.

Indeed, instead of boiling at 100, it boils are an astonishingly overrated 212. And it compensates that with a measly freezing point of 32, instead of the usual 0.

In fact, this suspect compund is known to do this throughout the continental United States!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here, the usual temps in like 8 months of a year are 30 and beyond, often close to 40.
EVERY house/apartment/office is equipped with ACs, we have a separate AC in every room in the house, we even sleep with AC on. Basically, people live in an artificial climate almost 24/7.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was 50c in Riyadh, that was pretty hot. Too hot to leave the apartment for any length of time. 41c in Sydney was awful as well, the air burned my lips when I breathed in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cokey wrote:
It's quite peculiar and a question that I have no answer for. It's probably more that the old people are used to the speed in their car being miles an hour and would have problems with speeding if it was changed


I think you've accidentally answered your own question about why we in the USA still use stupid units.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We haven't switched because there are actually important things to worry about.

Anyone who needs to switch ought to have already done so. Manufacturing has. Science supposedly has (which doesn't explain NASA -- why would they bother converting?). Then there's the "soft" switch in consumer goods. Food containers are either in metric or include metric weights and volumes. For example, 12Fl oz (355mL) or 12 oz (340g). I've seen some bottles which are .5L and whatever the off equivalent in ounces would be. Automobiles typically have both MPH and KPH. I've seen major TV networks include Celsius in weather reports. It would be easy for labeling to keep both while switching emphasis to metric. Do that for a couple or few generations and the switch is done.

But again, it isn't important because there actually are important things to address. Oh, and no one cares because there's no compelling reason to change.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BonezTheGoon wrote:
cokey wrote:
It's quite peculiar and a question that I have no answer for. It's probably more that the old people are used to the speed in their car being miles an hour and would have problems with speeding if it was changed


I think you've accidentally answered your own question about why we in the USA still use stupid units.
Nobody has learned imperial in schools for decades though. Do people still learn imperial in schools?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Science supposedly has (which doesn't explain NASA -- why would they bother converting?).

NASA uses metric internally, they only report in imperial for public press releases. I agree they should rethink that, or at least quote metric and imperial.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
pjp wrote:
Science supposedly has (which doesn't explain NASA -- why would they bother converting?).

NASA uses metric internally, they only report in imperial for public press releases. I agree they should rethink that, or at least quote metric and imperial.
I'm referring to the conversion "disaster."
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The whole thing could be written off as a miscommunication. Propulsion engineers, like those at Lockheed Martin who built the craft, typically express force in pounds, but it was standard practice to convert to newtons for space missions. One pound of force is about 4.45 newtons. Engineers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab assumed the conversion had been made, and didn't check.

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