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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject: Philanthrocapitalism Reply with quote

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More and more wealthy CEOs are pledging to give away parts of their fortunes – often to help fix problems their companies caused. Some call this ‘philanthrocapitalism’, but is it just corporate hypocrisy?


It's a large article so pulling bits out would be counterproductive

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/24/the-trouble-with-charitable-billionaires-philanthrocapitalism
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.
Duck?

The Donald is the most corrupt politician in the history of the US. It's pretty bad that the US is in the same league as Russia and China when it comes to leadership
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Old School wrote:
They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.
Duck?

The Donald is the most corrupt politician in the history of the US. It's pretty bad that the US is in the same league as Russia and China when it comes to leadership
Yeah, keep deluding yourself. The political class has done so much good for the US. Twenty trillion in debt. Trade deals where China charges US goods a 21% tariff, while Chinese goods to the US are charged 2.5%. They exported untold jobs to China, they kept wages stagnant for decades, they refuse to tackle problems (solve the problem.... no more contributions), and they have kept us in a perpetual state of war for decades.

You, my friend, are part of the problem if you really think the political class is for the common good. They are warmongers and only look after their globalist money masters.

Name a proven example of Trump's corruption as President. It is very obvious that your knowledge of US history is lacking, to say the least. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.


the donald isn't a politician. He's one of them.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-mar-a-lago-you-all-just-got-a-lot-richer-friends-tax-bill-2017-12?r=US&IR=T
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They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.


the donald isn't a politician.
Exactly! You finally figured it out. THAT is why he got elected. The political caste has been selling out the US Middle Class for a generation, and keeping us in perpetual war. I know you support them, but that is why Trump will be reelected. Hell. I might even vote for him this time.
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Twenty trillion in debt.


I have some swamp land in Florida to sell if you think Donald will be even as good as Obama on that. He's going to blow that puppy up to numbers you have never seen.
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Twenty trillion in debt.


I have some swamp land in Florida to sell if you think Donald will be even as good as Obama on that. He's going to blow that puppy up to numbers you have never seen.
Conjecture on your part. But it isn't conjecture as to what Crooked Hillary would have done to the budget. And it isn't conjecture to state it was "only" 10 trillion when the Obama regime first took control. Barry did single handedly what took every president before him to accomplish. Under the Bush's and Clintons, and Obama's, the rich got richer; the poor got poorer, and the middle class was forgotten. But in the spirit of insanity, you and others like you seem to insist on keeping the political caste and their globalist money masters in power, and continuing to fuck the forgotten American worker.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have some swamp land in Florida to sell if you think Donald will be even as good as Obama on that. He's going to blow that puppy up to numbers you have never seen.
Conjecture on your part. But it isn't conjecture as to what Crooked Hillary would have done to the budget.[/quote]

It's actually far more conjectural what Hillary would have done, since Trump has actually started enacting his budget. His budget isn't conjecture now. You can see all the red ink everywhere by just seeing his budget and discounting his rosy projections to reality.

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And it isn't conjecture to state it was "only" 10 trillion when the Obama regime first took control. Barry did single handedly what took every president before him to accomplish.


Indeed. I don't dispute that. Don't see the point though.

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Under the Bush's and Clintons, and Obama's, the rich got richer; the poor got poorer, and the middle class was forgotten. But in the spirit of insanity, you and others like you seem to insist on keeping the political caste and their globalist money masters in power, and continuing to fuck the forgotten American worker.


Don't know who you are talking to. hillary was way down my list of candidates. Donald was much lower.

Just face it. Donald is indefenceable. I don't need to defend Clinton. I didn't like her.
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cokey wrote:
Old School wrote:
They can do whatever they want. They own every politician, the exception being The Donald.
Duck?

The Donald is the most corrupt politician in the history of the US. It's pretty bad that the US is in the same league as Russia and China when it comes to leadership
Yeah, keep deluding yourself. The political class has done so much good for the US. Twenty trillion in debt. Trade deals where China charges US goods a 21% tariff, while Chinese goods to the US are charged 2.5%. They exported untold jobs to China, they kept wages stagnant for decades, they refuse to tackle problems (solve the problem.... no more contributions), and they have kept us in a perpetual state of war for decades.

You, my friend, are part of the problem if you really think the political class is for the common good. They are warmongers and only look after their globalist money masters.

Name a proven example of Trump's corruption as President. It is very obvious that your knowledge of US history is lacking, to say the least. :wink:
Wait a moment... You think a person who was previously part of the corrupt system behind the politicians is no longer corrupt now he is one?

That is the most insane thing I have heard in years 8O
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the most insane thing I have heard in years 8O


Are you sure? How can you tell?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the most insane thing I have heard in years 8O


You clearly haven't been listening to Diane Abbott
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He will just get a boner on that one. Way to go with metaphors!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Twenty trillion in debt.


I have some swamp land in Florida to sell if you think Donald will be even as good as Obama on that. He's going to blow that puppy up to numbers you have never seen.
Conjecture on your part. But it isn't conjecture as to what Crooked Hillary would have done to the budget. And it isn't conjecture to state it was "only" 10 trillion when the Obama regime first took control. Barry did single handedly what took every president before him to accomplish. Under the Bush's and Clintons, and Obama's, the rich got richer; the poor got poorer, and the middle class was forgotten. But in the spirit of insanity, you and others like you seem to insist on keeping the political caste and their globalist money masters in power, and continuing to fuck the forgotten American worker.


and then he gets in an does the one thing

a. that he said he was going to do and,
b. that penalises the poor and,
c. that socialists gave up doing 30 years ago because we learnt our lesson,

and that's put in tariffs. And then he acts surprised when other countries retaliate. And these are allies!

Clinton would never have put trade tariffs in. Tariffs only hurt the poor. They don't hurt Trump, but they will sure hurt the poor.
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Great, sugar. Then all our trading partners need to remove their tariffs on US goods. Car parts US to China: 25% tariff. Car parts China to US: 2.5%. So, tell me Sherlock, who's screwing who?

Care to compare lamb between the US and Hobbitville?
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Great, sugar. Then all our trading partners need to remove their tariffs on US goods. Car parts US to China: 25% tariff. Car parts China to US: 2.5%. So, tell me Sherlock, who's screwing who?

Care to compare lamb between the US and Hobbitville?


it's almost like there should be some kind of free trade agreement. Maybe start with allies, like Canada and Mexico. We can call it the North American Free Trade Agreement. Or something.
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If it was free trade. But it hasn't been. Mexico and Canada charge more for US goods than their goods coming here.

You should check the facts, and not rely on info from the International Revolutionary Communist Party.

Care to compare lamb export tariffs between our two countries?
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If it was free trade. But it hasn't been. Mexico and Canada charge more for US goods than their goods coming here.

You should check the facts, and not rely on info from the International Revolutionary Communist Party.

Care to compare lamb export tariffs between our two countries?
I don't see what the US has to gain from all these tariffs :?
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If it was free trade. But it hasn't been. Mexico and Canada charge more for US goods than their goods coming here.

You should check the facts, and not rely on info from the International Revolutionary Communist Party.

Care to compare lamb export tariffs between our two countries?
I don't see what the US has to gain from all these tariffs :?
Did you not read my post? Car parts going to China from the US. China charges 25%. We charge China 2.5% for their car parts coming to the US. Can you not get it through your head that the US consumer and manufacturers have been shafted by these policies? :? :? :?

So okay motherfuckers; you want to continue, well fuck you. We're turning the tables on you until you decide to play fair.

As a member of the EU, you have no right to pretend to be the aggrieved party. As I said earlier: World War II is long over. You don't deserve any welfare from the American consumer.
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If it was free trade. But it hasn't been. Mexico and Canada charge more for US goods than their goods coming here.

You should check the facts, and not rely on info from the International Revolutionary Communist Party.

Care to compare lamb export tariffs between our two countries?
I don't see what the US has to gain from all these tariffs :?
Did you not read my post? Car parts going to China from the US. China charges 25%. We charge China 2.5% for their car parts coming to the US. Can you not get it through your head that the US consumer and manufacturers have been shafted by these policies? :? :? :?

So okay motherfuckers; you want to continue, well fuck you. We're turning the tables on you until you decide to play fair.

As a member of the EU, you have no right to pretend to be the aggrieved party. As I said earlier: World War II is long over. You don't deserve any welfare from the American consumer.
I'm not denying that it's slanted in the way of other parties but the US exports fuck all to china and imports everything (including jobs). All this will do is cause prices to be higher which will cause them to buy fewer things which in turn will stagnate the economy.

So where is the upside?
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The upside is we finally have a president that cares more for the American consumer than the George Soros' of the world. The upside is countries that have been allowed to fuck over the American consumer will now be forced to renegotiate.

Who else are the authoritarian fucks in China gonna sell their goods if the US market becomes less profitable? Venezuela? Russia? :lol:
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The upside is we finally have a president that cares more for the American consumer than the George Soros' of the world. The upside is countries that have been allowed to fuck over the American consumer will now be forced to renegotiate.

Who else are the authoritarian fucks in China gonna sell their goods if the US market becomes less profitable? Venezuela? Russia? :lol:
Ok, for argument's sake we'll say that the baboon you have for a President cares for the consumer. You're still paying more for things at home, fewer countries are buying American goods in retaliation and China is selling to those countries who would have bought from the US.

Where is the upside?

You seem very reactionary and not looking at it from a logical point of view. Just like Trump you seem to only think about the immediate thought and not how it will effect you down the line. No-one is going to lose from this apart from the US because you are isolating yourself. Plus you've got SpaceForce to pay for :lol:
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China needs the US consumer more than we need the Chinese consumer. The EU needs the US consumer. The globalist morons you support do not own The Donald as they own the Clintons and Merkels of this world. There will be fair trade agreements implemented due to Trump's actions. You leeches in the EU and around the world will lose your free ride at least until the swamp regains control.
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China needs the US consumer more than we need the Chinese consumer. The EU needs the US consumer. The globalist morons you support do not own The Donald as they own the Clintons and Merkels of this world. There will be fair trade agreements implemented due to Trump's actions. You leeches in the EU and around the world will lose your free ride at least until the swamp regains control.
So who do you think is going to win this? This isn't the US v the rest of the world, this is what's good for the US consumer and 25% increases in prices are BAD not only for the consumer but for the economy. It may momentarily increase pocket money for the US govt but then it will go back down.

Donald will be voted out soon, Obamacare will come back in, trade will go back and everyone will be happy with the trade balance like they have been for 20 years
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