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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:55 am    Post subject: removing both kde and gnome on an old laptop Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

i had an old Acer Inspiron (7 years old, i7 2nd generation, 8gb DDR2 Ram, 250 Gb SSD + 750 Gb)

I did use GNOME 2 for quite some time. Then i tried GNOME 3 for a couple months, but didn't like it. So, i decided to switch to KDE: first 4 and then plasma. I=t semed nice, but wasn't happy with it.

I bought a RPI 3. I was hoping to replace my Laptop with it. Turns out, i couldn't. It was too slow and the memory was gone too fast, even though i tried and keep the resources consumption at minimum.

That's when i started using i3 and i love it!

I want to get rid KDE. But i'm not sure how.
Do i have to uninstal Qt too? I use networkkmanager.
Which profile should i use? I use systemd.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually you should remove parent package and the use depclean for removing unused dependencies
Code:
# emerge -C gnome-base/gnome
# emerge -C kde-plasma/plasma-meta
# emerge --depclean --ask

If some dependencies are putted in the world file you should remove even these
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx. I'll try that.
But what about my profile:
Code:

Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/13.0
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
  [8]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/developer
  [9]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib
  [10]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/systemd
  [11]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/x32
  [12]  default/linux/amd64/17.0
  [13]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/selinux
  [14]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/hardened
  [15]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/hardened/selinux
  [16]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop
  [17]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/gnome
  [18]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [19]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma
  [20]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd *
  [21]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/developer
  [22]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib
  [23]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib/hardened
  [24]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib/hardened/selinux
  [25]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/systemd
  [26]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/x32
  [27]  default/linux/amd64/17.1
  [28]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/selinux
  [29]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/hardened
  [30]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop
  [31]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome
  [32]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [33]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma
  [34]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd
  [35]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/developer
  [36]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib
  [37]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened
  [38]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened/selinux
  [39]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/systemd
  [40]  hardened/linux/amd64
  [41]  hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
  [42]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
  [43]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
  [44]  hardened/linux/amd64/x32
  [45]  default/linux/musl/amd64
  [46]  hardened/linux/musl/amd64
  [47]  default/linux/musl/amd64/x32
  [48]  hardened/linux/musl/amd64/x32
  [49]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl
  [50]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl/hardened
  [51]  default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl/hardened/selinux
  [52]  default/linux/uclibc/amd64
  [53]  hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64
  [54]  pentoo:pentoo/default/linux/amd64
  [55]  pentoo:pentoo/default/linux/amd64/binary
  [56]  pentoo:pentoo/default/linux/amd64/bleeding_edge
  [57]  pentoo:pentoo/hardened/linux/amd64
  [58]  pentoo:pentoo/hardened/linux/amd64/binary
  [59]  pentoo:pentoo/hardened/linux/amd64/bleeding_edge

i want to keep using systemd or should i drop it? perhaps openRC is now better?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want systemd you can combine default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop and default/linux/amd64/17.0/systemd profiles
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
If you want systemd you can combine default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop and default/linux/amd64/17.0/systemd profiles

how do i doi that?

i just saw the link in "combine them", SORRY :oops:
thx
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Switch your profile to pure desktop one,

check all USE flags in /etc/portage/* (make.conf, package.use)

check and clean your portage world file (/var/lib/portage/world)

that should help you clean it :)
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx
i switched to profile 30
and did emerge -aC gnome plasma-meta and emerge -.ac as suggested but i got this:
Code:

* Have you forgotten to do a complete update prior to depclean? The
 * most comprehensive command for this purpose is as follows:
 *
 *   emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world


i'll do that, but first i'll start with system
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad idea. Notice the news item: 2017-12-26 Experimental amd64 17.1 profiles up for testing

Emphasis on *experimental*.

That aside, a profile switch will always necessitate a world update with -N. This one requires much more.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
Bad idea. Notice the news item: 2017-12-26 Experimental amd64 17.1 profiles up for testing

Emphasis on *experimental*.

That aside, a profile switch will always necessitate a world update with -N. This one requires much more.

After i tried to emerge ncurses, it failed. Something about the profile.
I googled it and found that.
So, i switched to profile 16 (17.0 -> amd64/desktop)

Right now, i've got some problems:
everytime i run emerge -uDNav system, i've got a lot of errors:
-x11-proto packages (i figured it out, why. For some reason, xorg-proto isn't installed. So, now the new one set to emerge is blocking all the x11-proto packges)
It is safe to unemerge this category -> emerge -aC $(qlist -IC x11-proto) ?
Worse case, i screw up X, right?
- systemd: can i just set systemd in make.conf? -> euse -E systemd
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read here (German), that there's been a change for Xorg header files from Xorg and gentoo developers, in order to increase its speed and performance.
The new package x11-base/xorg-proto will replace eventually all the x11-proto packages.

Well, what can i said? :oops:
I haven't updated my system in almost a year, with exceptions of chromium, thunderbird and firefox
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