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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject: Similar to Gnome2/Mate? Reply with quote

I am not sure what DE to go with, but I went with the Gnome profile because I usually go with gtk stuff. I haven't tried Gnome3. I set all my profiles up the same: like Gnome2; top panel for Applications and tray, bottom for taskbar and cycling through desktops. I don't like the goofy names Mate gives everything. What to try? What to read about? Enlightenment sounds kinda cool and it isn't super common. I have never liked KDE since I tried Mandriva in 2007. :-/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't use gnome or kde you can use generic desktop profile default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop.
You can try xfce4 or cinnamon as DE
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
If you don't use gnome or kde you can use generic desktop profile default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop.
You can try xfce4 or cinnamon as DE


This is good to know. I figured I would end up with a lot of programs that use the GTK toolkit so I might as well go with the gnome/systemd profile.

I like Cinnamon on Mint. It's very familiar. I installed XFCE on my mother's computer and wasn't personally a fan of that one. I could probably just slap together my own DE, couldn't I?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a laptop with only OpenBox on it. With the help of tint2 (taskbar/panel), nitrogen (background setter), idesk (Icons on the root window) and compton (Compositor) it was good to go.

But with that approach you have to do everything yourself...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djentoo wrote:
This is good to know. I figured I would end up with a lot of programs that use the GTK toolkit so I might as well go with the gnome/systemd profile.
With a quick look in profile make.default gnome profile add these use flags

Code:
USE="colord eds evo gnome gnome-keyring gnome-online-accounts gstreamer introspection libsecret nautilus pulseaudio tracker"

If you want use general desktop profile with systemd you can combine the two profile default/linux/amd64/17.0/systemd and default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Similar to Gnome2/Mate? Reply with quote

djentoo wrote:
I am not sure what DE to go with, but I went with the Gnome profile because I usually go with gtk stuff. I haven't tried Gnome3. I set all my profiles up the same: like Gnome2; top panel for Applications and tray, bottom for taskbar and cycling through desktops. I don't like the goofy names Mate gives everything. What to try? What to read about? Enlightenment sounds kinda cool and it isn't super common. I have never liked KDE since I tried Mandriva in 2007. :-/


I changed from Gnome 2 to Xfce with openrc and configured the Desktop with the Taskbar on the bottom to look like Windows 2000. Now have 21 like this to look after.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to try Gnome3 first since I haven't even used it yet. I actually do like it. Just a few annoyances like not being able to hide/minimize windows.

I just finished compiling MATE to see if that's better than Gnome Classic, which is not at all what I was expecting.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djentoo wrote:
I just finished compiling MATE to see if that's better than Gnome Classic, which is not at all what I was expecting.

Not sure what you were expecting.

MATE is a clone of Gnome 2 and while not as light as some DE's it is much lighter than Gnome 3 and yet still provides a fairly complete and usable desktop environment. I find MATE much smoother and more responsive (apps load much faster) than Gnome 3. You can run MATE without systemd which for me is a plus.

What you pick for a DE is more a matter of personal preference and available system resources. I just prefer a classic desktop.

I run ~mate-1.18 with a generic profile default/linux/amd64/17.0 and set my own use flags as necessary.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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djentoo wrote:
I just finished compiling MATE to see if that's better than Gnome Classic, which is not at all what I was expecting.

Not sure what you were expecting.

MATE is a clone of Gnome 2 and while not as light as some DE's it is much lighter than Gnome 3 and yet still provides a fairly complete and usable desktop environment. I find MATE much smoother and more responsive (apps load much faster) than Gnome 3. You can run MATE without systemd which for me is a plus.

What you pick for a DE is more a matter of personal preference and available system resources. I just prefer a classic desktop.

I run ~mate-1.18 with a generic profile default/linux/amd64/17.0 and set my own use flags as necessary.

:)


Ahh, well I was just expecting to be able to add and customize panels. Gnome3 feels like a playpen; like OSX.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djentoo wrote:
Ahh, well I was just expecting to be able to add and customize panels. Gnome3 feels like a playpen; like OSX.
As far as I know you can add and customize as many panels as you like. I customize my panels and menus as I see fit to suit my needs.

There not going to resemble the Gnome 3 panels, as they shouldn't.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djentoo wrote:
I decided to try Gnome3 first since I haven't even used it yet. I actually do like it. Just a few annoyances like not being able to hide/minimize windows.

I just finished compiling MATE to see if that's better than Gnome Classic, which is not at all what I was expecting.


Why is it you think you can't hide / minimize windows on Gnome3? A double-click anywhere on the top bar will min / max a window, there aren't icons for that.

To get Gnome3 to work the way I wanted required installation of the gnome-extra/gnome-tweak-tool and quite a bit of experimentation / configuration initially to even get things like a right-click option to grab a terminal from the current desktop, and a bunch of other options an experienced user would expect to see as defaults.

DE's a personal thing I guess, but I'm putting up with systemd on a bunch of machines to keep Gnome 3 around, that's my main annoyance with it.

Dantrell has done some excellent work on Gnome3 without systemd which would be fine for personal use. I haven't installed that since elogind became a thing, but it's on the list to try again when I get a spare machine and a bit of time.
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