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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: gtk bug Reply with quote

[Moderator note: this thread and the first 9 responses in it were originally attached to Typing and scrolling lag in LibreOffice due to gtk3, but are apparently a different issue. Accordingly, I moved them to a separate thread. The post had no title, and its subject is unclear, so the placeholder title is vague. OP: please amend the title as you feel appropriate. -Hu]

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Hm, sooner or later you should figure out why gtk3 performs that bad on your systems. The time of the legacy gtk2 frontend is limited.


Hm gtk2 - time limited, but only one true lib those works well with gnome environment))

gtk3 - time unlimited, but works only bugs ))))
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hm gtk2 - time limited, but only one true lib those works well with gnome environment))

gtk3 - time unlimited, but works only bugs ))))

There is no indication that this statement is true in general. It seems to affect a certain setup. The same may or may not be true for any given toolkit support of LO.

Anything else you wanted to express with your post? Do you have the same problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe problem not the same, i didn't debug gtk3 function, but

i build mate DE with gtk3 support and i can't say that i can work in that environment. Until i rebuild all with USE=-gtk3

And many people wroted here:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1034740-start-50.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're talking about Mate not Gnome. Both are offtopic in this thread, however, did you even try the latest Mate version before posting here, fixing those Mate-related issues as described by geki?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i talking about gtk3 bugs!?

What latest version mate you ask? Those in portage tree with created ebuild or new builded version here http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.20/?C=M&O=D

or github version?

I think that: test portage with mate-1.20.ebuild would be interesting, but overlay is not comfortable. And mate-1.20.ebuild is not in portage tree

If gtk3 works fine with much more aplication - why i shouldn't use it?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtk3 has bugs, gtk2 has bugs, qt4 has bugs, qt5 has bugs...

That does not mean you enter a LibreOffice support thread with your general Mate problem. Simply read the reply you got in the related thread you are already in, that you yourself posted the link to. Focus.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
gtk3 has bugs, gtk2 has bugs, qt4 has bugs, qt5 has bugs...

That does not mean you enter a LibreOffice support thread with your general Mate problem. Simply read the reply you got in the related thread you are already in, that you yourself posted the link to. Focus.


i cant debug related issues, Now im searching forum to solve those problem that i have. Especialy gtk3 support with many application those needed in my life. And i haven't answer why so many issue with gtk3 like why gtk2 have bugs but in many ways worked fine
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And do you have a bug with Libreoffice?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
And do you have a bug with Libreoffice?


cant debug related issues, i don't know were libreoffice bug or gtk3 bug, but i have artifacts while scrolling documents
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good! Only 9 posts were required to finally establish why you are here! Do you understand where the problem is with that?

However it is clearly not the same bug by your description. That aside, you mentioned you have issues with several gtk3-based applications, so one would begin to search for the issue in your graphics stack. For that, please open your own thread with full disclosure (the opposite of what you did in this thread).

[Moderator note: this ends the posts that were originally attached to the LibreOffice thread.

OP: now that this thread has been split out, you can continue here without derailing the LibreOffice thread. Another new thread is not required. -Hu]

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good! Only 9 posts were required to finally establish why you are here! Do you understand where the problem is with that?


Only 9 posts you need to understand why people are here and write messages... How can i understand where is the problem?
i cant debug related issues, Now im searching forum to solve those problem that i have
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to debug the issue in order to describe to us what you see...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have same problem in many application those have scroll bar, like browsers vivaldi libreoffice pluma rdesktop

with USE=gtk3 than i move location of window i have graphic track, without gkt3 some artifacts only shows while scrolling text string are moving on each other
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