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firasuke n00b
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krinn Watchman
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Code: | * x32 ABI for 64-bit mode
... (that's just the help of make)
Reason: It's highly recommended that you include this option in your kernel
if you're planning on running 32-bit programs. |
In no way this option will help you run any 32bit programs. It allow you to run x32 programs
Because of this, the default safe choice should be off, as if anyone need to turn this on, it should be imply that this person don't really need any guide.
I have just check some, well, you have strange habit on recommendation for me, like saying "highly suggest on" instead of just telling people "you must turn it on", like in kernel module support, if bumblebee need a module, this option is then not "highly suggest", but critical for bumblebee users. |
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firasuke n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:01 am Post subject: |
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* x32 ABI for 64-bit mode
... (that's just the help of make)
Reason: It's highly recommended that you include this option in your kernel
if you're planning on running 32-bit programs.
In no way this option will help you run any 32bit programs. It allow you to run x32 programs
Because of this, the default safe choice should be off, as if anyone need to turn this on, it should be imply that this person don't really need any guide.
I have just check some, well, you have strange habit on recommendation for me, like saying "highly suggest on" instead of just telling people "you must turn it on", like in kernel module support, if bumblebee need a module, this option is then not "highly suggest", but critical for bumblebee users. |
Thanks for your reply, I never said that you needed this option to run 32bit programs. What I meant is that, if you're planning on running a 32bit program then this option will be of benefit to you (it's up to you to include or exclude it).
The "Reason" section was provided to help the user lean towards including or excluding a certain option based on his/her needs.
If it caused absolute confusion then I'll happily change it.
Again, thanks for pointing that out!
Keep'em coming _________________ DOTSLASHLINUX is a GNU/Linux enthusiasts' hub, featuring configuration guides for the linux kernel and several software. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54234 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:15 am Post subject: |
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firasuke,
The Intel/AMD kernel supports 3 different modes. 64 bit (with or without 32 bit support), 32 bit and 64 bit with 32 bit pointers.
The first two map to real hardware, amd64 and i?86 installs. The latter is for memory constrained 64 bit systems.
I don't think the user space support was ever finished.
I can't get past the first page of your site. It appears to run some evil trackers which I block. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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firasuke n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | firasuke,
The Intel/AMD kernel supports 3 different modes. 64 bit (with or without 32 bit support), 32 bit and 64 bit with 32 bit pointers.
The first two map to real hardware, amd64 and i?86 installs. The latter is for memory constrained 64 bit systems.
I don't think the user space support was ever finished.
I can't get past the first page of your site. It appears to run some evil trackers which I block. |
I see so x32 ABI support for 64bit systems can be safely excluded (and won't affect the performance of 32bit programs).
The website runs Google Analytics (which I've added recently). I'll look into disabling it as I've seen no benefit from it whatsoever.
Thanks for the feedback NeddySeagoon.
EDIT #1: Evil trackers have been removed from the website. _________________ DOTSLASHLINUX is a GNU/Linux enthusiasts' hub, featuring configuration guides for the linux kernel and several software.
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:30 am Post subject: |
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firasuke,
Correct. Anyone running 64 bit with 32 bit pointers is probably doing development. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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firasuke n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:38 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | firasuke,
Correct. Anyone running 64 bit with 32 bit pointers is probably doing development. |
Thanks a lot for your elaboration. Option has now been marked as excluded, and the "Reason" has been corrected.
I've removed the evil trackers from the website. Hope it's easily accessible by all Gentoo users now.
Keep'em coming! _________________ DOTSLASHLINUX is a GNU/Linux enthusiasts' hub, featuring configuration guides for the linux kernel and several software. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:59 am Post subject: |
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firasuke,
That's better. Your site works now.
Its worth adding in some general information about the menuconfig search function.
The press / enter symbol name fragment to search, press the digit next to the symbol to go to it.
That needs a warning about how symbols are hidden if the things they depend are off too, so the search won't work.
However, if you press 'z' you are able to see and search all the hidden symbols. Its a toggle, so you can turn it off again.
Now you can apply the normal search recursively, to enable everything your hidden symbol needs.
You will be aware that -*- in menuconfig means forced on.
With hidden symbols showing you will see - -, which means forced off.
Are you aware of kernel-seeds ? _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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firasuke n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | firasuke,
That's better. Your site works now.
Its worth adding in some general information about the menuconfig search function.
The press / enter symbol name fragment to search, press the digit next to the symbol to go to it.
That needs a warning about how symbols are hidden if the things they depend are off too, so the search won't work.
However, if you press 'z' you are able to see and search all the hidden symbols. Its a toggle, so you can turn it off again.
Now you can apply the normal search recursively, to enable everything your hidden symbol needs.
You will be aware that -*- in menuconfig means forced on.
With hidden symbols showing you will see - -, which means forced off.
Are you aware of kernel-seeds ? |
I've explained all of these symbols and their meanings at the beginning of part 2.
Yes, I'm aware of kernel-seeds. It's kinda similar to what I'm trying to achieve but I think it's outdated and provides less info? (correct me if I'm wrong)
Thanks for your reply, glad the site is working now! _________________ DOTSLASHLINUX is a GNU/Linux enthusiasts' hub, featuring configuration guides for the linux kernel and several software. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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firasuke,
You don't cover the use of the 'z' key to search for hidden symbols.
kernel-seeds has been unmaintaned for several years now and has fallen behind. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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firasuke n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | firasuke,
You don't cover the use of the 'z' key to search for hidden symbols.
kernel-seeds has been unmaintaned for several years now and has fallen behind. |
Ah my bad, the local version of the website isn't in sync with the online version.
It should shortly appear along with the types of kernel options and what do the symbols before them mean.
Thanks for notifying me! _________________ DOTSLASHLINUX is a GNU/Linux enthusiasts' hub, featuring configuration guides for the linux kernel and several software. |
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The Main Man Veteran
Joined: 27 Nov 2014 Posts: 1166 Location: /run/user/1000
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Is site down ? |
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Ant P. Watchman
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:48 am Post subject: |
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kajzer wrote: | Is site down ? |
It looks like a domain squatter took the hostname in 2018. HTTPS doesn't respond, but don't visit it over HTTP.
Fortunately the Gentoo option is alive and well… |
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The Main Man Veteran
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Ant P. wrote: | kajzer wrote: | Is site down ? |
It looks like a domain squatter took the hostname in 2018. HTTPS doesn't respond, but don't visit it over HTTP.
Fortunately the Gentoo option is alive and well… |
Kernel seeds seems to be interesting, wasn't aware of this, I'll give it a try, thanks! |
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