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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we just view definition of The Star differently. Particularly regarding TOS. That was one of the complaints by other actors that Shatner was hogging screen time and they didn't develop the other characters well. But even in TNG, I think it is pretty safe to call Stewart The Star. I'd say the same for DS9 and what I've seen of Voyager, though post TOS it isn't as obvious. I do think with Enterprise it was very clearly Bakula. I think after TOS more was offered to the supporting cast members. I don't dismiss perceptions of the SJW issue with Discovery, I just can't comment on it as I haven't yet seen it. Hoping it is on Prime at some point.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yea, one other point about STD that really stands out when you know who is writing it and what their politics are. The justification for attacking the Klingon is exactly the same as the justification for antifa's violence. Add that to the klingons being a stand in for Trump supporters (who antifa calls "Nazis") and you have the antifa justification for initiating all of their political violence praised on the TV.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's certainly unfortunate. I've stopped watching shows for similar (pre-Trump) reasons.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
Oh yea, one other point about STD that really stands out...

pjp wrote:
That's certainly unfortunate.
Yes, yes it is.

Terrible abbreviation, that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, took me a minute to read what he meant. :) Maybe that was intentional. But then again, he didn't name the show, and if anyone knew the history, inevitable abbreviations are obvious. Maybe the creators did it intentionally.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is actually the official abbreviation, oddly enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
It is actually the official abbreviation, oddly enough.
So, you are telling us that it is a standard thing?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be ST:D?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't it be ST:D?
Is the colon intended to add Shatnerian dramatic effect?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its just a transmission vector for the more adventurous.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the colon just makes it gross. If I'm going to get an STD, I want it to stay on my dick.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually the colon just makes it gross. If I'm going to get an STD, I want it to stay on my dick.
ST:=====D
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(.)(.)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually the colon just makes it gross. If I'm going to get an STD, I want it to stay on my dick.
ST:=====D
You are a bad boy!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Naib wrote:
nokilli wrote:
Actually the colon just makes it gross. If I'm going to get an STD, I want it to stay on my dick.
ST:=====D
You are a bad boy!


That's what she said.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys need to get laid or thump one out or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just wish you were cool like energyman.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nokilli wrote:
Actually the colon just makes it gross. If I'm going to get an STD, I want it to stay on my dick.

So stop putting your dick in people's colons. Duh.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest one was a bit subpar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The latest one was a bit subpar
Really? I thought it was a roller coaster of a ride.

Tyler is a Klingon. I think he is Voq.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The latest one was a bit subpar


Latest you mean? Into the forest or despite yourself

Despite yourself and the wolf inside were only available in the UK 15th.
Merging the mirror universe and the identity of the discovery's security officer is interesting
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode 12, Vaulting Ambitions with yet another WTF! moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got round to watching it. You definitely good Looking back all the clues were there
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have been telling a story, just not the one we thought we were watching. Kudos to the writers.
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