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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:17 am    Post subject: Free Speech (and its cost) Reply with quote

Props to Berkley for doing what is necessary to allow varied voices to speak:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/us/california-today-price-tag-to-protect-speech-at-berkeley-600000.html?_r=0
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-berkeley-protest-shapiro-20170914-htmlstory.html
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undreds of protesters swarmed UC Berkeley on Thursday evening as conservative writer Ben Shapiro spoke on campus, with law enforcement out in force to prevent a repeat of recent violent clashes between far-left and far-right agitators.

Nine people were arrested, four of them for carrying banned weapons. One was held on suspicion of battery on a police officer. Hundreds of law enforcement officers, many in riot gear, prepared for violence and seized potential weapons, but no major skirmishes were reported. Several shouting matches erupted but ended peacefully.

A campus spokesman said there is a “sense of relief” that the preparations worked and Shapiro’s speech went smoothly. At one point during the evening, police said, crowds swelled to about 1,000 people.

The intense security for the evening came with a $600,000 price tag, and involved shutting down and clearing out large swaths of the campus.

Days earlier, Berkeley Police Chief Andrew Greenwood successfully lobbied the City Council to adjust a 1997 ban on the use of pepper spray as a crowd-control technique. Officers Thursday were free to use pepper spray on individual protesters deemed violent.

People were also temporarily prohibited from bringing sticks, pipes and poles within a certain zone specified by authorities.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Free Speech (and it's cost) Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Props to Berkley for doing what is necessary to allow varied voices to speak:
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It is a shame they didn't do it on previous events, but at least they are now. Hopefully they'll continue to do so.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shapiro is a classical tiny jewish lawyer. all these protestors are antisemites.

(no, i don't really believe that... just that this is how dumb they sound when they call everyone nazis/racist/whatever)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big dave wrote:
shapiro is a classical tiny jewish lawyer. all these protestors are antisemites.

(no, i don't really believe that... just that this is how dumb they sound when they call everyone nazis/racist/whatever)


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If Berzerkly hadn't been coddling these AntiFa morons for years, this wouldn't have been so expensive. I'm glad that they (Berkeley's lolgov) are finally stepping up and protecting the constitutional rights of Americans.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when do Americans tolerate political violence?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flysideways wrote:
Since when do Americans tolerate political violence?

Not up here.

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TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

CHAPTER 40 - HOMICIDE

18-4009. Justifiable homicide by any person. Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in either of the following cases:
1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,
2. When committed in defense of habitation, property or person, against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any person therein; or,
3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress or servant of such person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant or engaged in mortal combat, must really and in good faith have endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was committed; or,
4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving the peace.
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[18-4009, added 1972, ch. 336, sec. 1, p. 930.]

It's oddly...peaceful. And it always is.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Props to Berkeley.... What a joke!

Only after the whole country finally figured out that Berkeley has been aiding and abetting a bunch of Maoist revolutionaries do they make a few arrests.
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