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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject: GRUB2 and F2FS root partition Reply with quote

Hello again,

I would like to try the F2FS for my root partition. There are both vigorous opponents and convinced supporters of the file system around. I would like to find out for myself whether this is something worth or not.

However, I could not find out how to make the system bootable. There is a Funtoo and an Arch howto available, both of which seem to me not applicable because of using their specific scripts. Else I did not find a good description.

What I did:
1) partitioned in such a way that /boot resides on a ext4 partition
Code:
cat /etc/fstab
# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts>          <dump/pass>

# boot Partition
UUID="667a24ab-88af-4cbc-b72c-2752997b8b86"     /boot           ext4    rw,noatime              0 1
# efi Partition
UUID="B05A-EACF"                                /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077,noatime      0 0
# Root
UUID="9e97f1a8-9b6e-4ac8-8836-758dd18e58a3"     /               f2fs    error=remount-ro,noatime        0 0
2. activated the kernels for F2FS
Code:
cat /boot/config-4.12.5-gentoo |grep F2FS
CONFIG_F2FS_FS=y
CONFIG_F2FS_STAT_FS=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_XATTR=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_SECURITY=y
# CONFIG_F2FS_CHECK_FS is not set
# CONFIG_F2FS_FS_ENCRYPTION is not set
# CONFIG_F2FS_FAULT_INJECTION is not set
3. Updated Grub using grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grb/grub.cfg
This gives me an error from the os-prober complaining about an unknown file system. It does recognise Gentoo though, and the vmlinuz file in the boot directory. The grub command line should however mention a line with rootfs=F2FS, which is not the case, see here last post.
Code:
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="Gentoo"

# Default menu entry
#GRUB_DEFAULT=0
...
....
# Append parameters to the linux kernel command line
#GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
#
# Examples:
#
# Boot with network interface renaming disabled
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0"
#
# Boot with systemd instead of sysvinit (openrc)
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd"

# Append parameters to the linux kernel command line for non-recovery entries
#GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""

Please do not advise against using F2FS, this is my playground. All I want is to learn how to install it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grb/grub.cfg is failing. Any reason you can't set up your grub.cfg by hand?

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Configuration
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Howto install on F2FS partition needed Reply with quote

Lokesh wrote:
3. Updated Grub using grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grb/grub.cfg
This gives me an error from the os-prober complaining about an unknown file system. It does recognise Gentoo though, and the vmlinuz file in the boot directory. The grub command line should however mention a line with rootfs=F2FS, which is not the case, see here last post.

If you do not need an initramfs and grub makes trouble, try without grub. EFI stub kernel is fairly simple and once your computer's UEFI setup provides something to create a boot entry you can even forget about efibootmgr.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the Arch Wiki Grub should work. There are a couple of examples also on this forum, but unfortunately they did not describe their setup in detail.

I will look into your links, but I am really curious to see how it works with Grub.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
So grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grb/grub.cfg is failing. Any reason you can't set up your grub.cfg by hand?
I don't think it is predominantly a grub issue, something else "beforehand" is missing, I believe.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lokesh wrote:
I don't think it is predominantly a grub issue, something else "beforehand" is missing, I believe.

Can your system be booted from sysresccd instead from your own kernel?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/F2FS#Install_Arch_Linux_on_F2FS_partition wrote:
Warning: If using GRUB your freshly installed system might not boot after reboot. As GRUB doesn't support F2FS it isn't able to extract the UUID ...
What in detail have you done to solve this?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently using f2fs as the root partition on my system. Here are the relevant lines in my /etc/fstab file:
Code:
UUID=a1344e58-5322-419c-9cc7-5d0d4c3bed75               /               f2fs            rw,noatime      1 2
UUID=3BA3-17EC          /boot           vfat            rw,noatime      1 2


Here is the fdisk -l output from my bootable m2 drive:
Code:
Disk /dev/sda: 238.5 GiB, 256060514304 bytes, 500118192 sectors                                             
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes                                                                       
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                       
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                           
Disklabel type: gpt                                                                                         
Disk identifier: 8DA04DB9-EAB4-4D3F-85DE-2CEDB82BB84E                                                       
                                                                                                             
Device      Start       End   Sectors   Size Type                                                           
/dev/sda1    2048      6143      4096     2M BIOS boot                                                       
/dev/sda2    6144    268287    262144   128M EFI System
/dev/sda3  268288 500117503 499849216 238.4G Linux filesystem
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lokesh wrote:
Jaglover wrote:
So grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grb/grub.cfg is failing. Any reason you can't set up your grub.cfg by hand?
I don't think it is predominantly a grub issue, something else "beforehand" is missing, I believe.

And that would be completely irrelevant if your goal is to boot your system. Of course, if you are out there to troubleshoot Grub automated scripts then you have to dig into it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

charles17 wrote:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/F2FS#Install_Arch_Linux_on_F2FS_partition wrote:
Warning: If using GRUB your freshly installed system might not boot after reboot. As GRUB doesn't support F2FS it isn't able to extract the UUID ...
What in detail have you done to solve this?
That is probably the cause for the trouble. As mentionend in my initial post, a line should appear in grub saying "root=UUID=xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx". It does not. In the Arch wiki it is said, oddly enough: you might have to manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg. I think the edit should be rather made to /etc/default/grub.

Question 1: correct?
Question 2: how?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skinjob2707 wrote:
I'm currently using f2fs as the root partition on my system.
Hello Skinjob2707, can you post your /etc/default/grub please?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need rootfstype=f2fs on the boot line. Can't offer any advice about GRUB, but since your /boot is already ext4 other bootloaders would probably have a good chance of working.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lokesh wrote:
Question 1: correct?
Wrong. It is about /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Lokesh wrote:
Question 2: how?
Please check wiki.gentoo.org or upstream for grub2 documentation.

Lokesh wrote:
Code:
cat /etc/fstab
# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts>          <dump/pass>

# boot Partition
UUID="667a24ab-88af-4cbc-b72c-2752997b8b86"     /boot           ext4    rw,noatime              0 1
# efi Partition
UUID="B05A-EACF"                                /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077,noatime      0 0
...
...

What is the reason for using such strange construction?

If the /boot/efi is
  • a directory on the /boot partition, the efi partition can be mounted only if /boot is mounted
  • a path on the / (Root) partition, the efi partition gets inaccessible when /boot gets mounted


P.S.:
For getting answers here, you'd better adjust the topic to "Need help with GRUB2" or so.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

charles17 wrote:
What is the reason for using such strange construction?

The ESP needs a Fat32 partition. The boot partition must not be F2FS because it cannot be read from at boot time. In my view only 2 options:
1. a FAT32 partition mounted to /boot, including the efi directory
OR
2. a non-FAT32 boot partition plus a FAT32-partition mounted to /boot/efi. Normally (i.e. when using ext4 for the root partition), my /boot is ext4, residing on the same partition as /.

Skinjob2707 opted for 1. (if he is using GPT/EFI), me 2. Why is it strange?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe »strange« is the wrong wording. In fact is makes things more complicated as for any manipulation in the ESP you have to check the mount situation very carefully. And, the additional /boot partition is superfluous as any boot stuff could go into the ESP.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skinjob2707 wrote:
I'm currently using f2fs as the root partition on my system.
Just saw that you had the very same problem a few months ago. How did you go on with the patches you were mentioning. Are they required?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My issue was that I hadn't included the generic SCSI driver in the kernel. Since it was only compiled a module, the kernel couldn't access the drive at all. Once I built the kernel to include the SCSI/AHCI drivers, everything worked. The file system was irrelevant.

Here is the contents of /etc/default/grub:
Code:
# Copyright 1999-2015 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
#
# To populate all changes in this file you need to regenerate your
# grub configuration file afterwards:
#     'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg'
#
# See the grub info page for documentation on possible variables and
# their associated values.

GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="Gentoo"

# Default menu entry
#GRUB_DEFAULT=0

# Boot the default entry this many seconds after the menu is displayed
#GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
#GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu
                                                                                                             
# Append parameters to the linux kernel command line                                                         
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rootfstype=f2fs init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd"                                           
#                                                                                                           
# Examples:                                                                                                 
#                                                                                                           
# Boot with network interface renaming disabled                                                             
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0"                                                                         
#                                                                                                           
# Boot with systemd instead of sysvinit (openrc)                                                             
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd"                                                         
                                                                                                             
# Append parameters to the linux kernel command line for non-recovery entries                               
#GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
#GRUB_TERMINAL=console

# The resolution used on graphical terminal.
# Note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE.
# You can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'.
#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480

# Set to 'text' to force the Linux kernel to boot in normal text
# mode, 'keep' to preserve the graphics mode set using
# 'GRUB_GFXMODE', 'WIDTHxHEIGHT'['xDEPTH'] to set a particular
# graphics mode, or a sequence of these separated by commas or
# semicolons to try several modes in sequence.
#GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=

# Path to theme spec txt file.
# The starfield is by default provided with use truetype.
# NOTE: when enabling custom theme, ensure you have required font/etc.
#GRUB_THEME="/boot/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt"

# Background image used on graphical terminal.
# Can be in various bitmap formats.
#GRUB_BACKGROUND="/boot/grub/mybackground.png"

# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to kernel
GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=false

# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true

# Uncomment to disable generation of the submenu and put all choices on
# the top-level menu.
# Besides the visual affect of no sub menu, this makes navigation of the
# menu easier for a user who can't see the screen.
#GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y

# Uncomment to play a tone when the main menu is displayed.
# This is useful, for example, to allow users who can't see the screen
# to know when they can make a choice on the menu.
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="60 800 1"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. Everything workls like a charm, since 2k14. Using grub, parted and f2fs-tools.
Here is my config.

Code:
# parted /dev/sda
GNU Parted 3.2
Using /dev/sda
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print                                                           
Model: ATA Samsung SSD 840 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 256GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:

Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name       Flags
 1      1049kB  4194kB  3146kB                  bios_grub  bios_grub
 2      4194kB  32.0GB  32.0GB                             msftdata
 3      32.0GB  32.1GB  128MB   ext4            boot       boot, esp
 4      32.1GB  200GB   168GB                   rootfs     msftdata
 5      200GB   216GB   16.0GB  linux-swap(v1)  swap       msftdata



Have no idea what magic line you talking about:
Code:

# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep root=
   set root='hd0,gpt3'
   linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.8-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.8-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.8-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.6-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.6-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.4-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.4-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.2-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.2-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.0-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro 
      set root='hd0,gpt3'
      linux   /vmlinuz-4.12.0-gentoo root=/dev/sda4 ro single



Code:
# cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# noatime turns off atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed); notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail / tail freely.
#
# The root filesystem should have a pass number of either 0 or 1.
# All other filesystems should have a pass number of 0 or greater than 1.
#
# See the manpage fstab(5) for more information.
#
# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
# <fs>         <mountpoint>   <type>      <opts>      <dump/pass>

# SDD
#/dev/sda3
UUID="f941dbff-8dff-4c06-b6dd-5fb31c540be5"      /boot      ext4      discard,noatime   1 2
#/dev/sda4
UUID="f38fc996-aa88-4026-9e50-c3050f3031ba"      /      f2fs      noatime      0 1
#/dev/sda5
UUID="bc7ee52a-e4cf-4c1d-b8e8-9457564c95b6"      none      swap      sw      0 0
# zalman
# external hdd case
#/dev/sdb1
UUID="42E87FAD1EB1B231"      /mnt/zalman_ntfs  ntfs      noatime,user,nofail,nobootwait 0 0
#/dev/sdb5
UUID="F0BF-9B80"      /mnt/zalman_exfat exfat      noatime,user,nofail,nobootwait 0 0
 
#/dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom   auto      noauto,ro   0 0
#/dev/fd0      /mnt/floppy   auto      noauto      0 0

Code:
 
# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep f2fs
# cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep F2FS

Code:
# cat /usr/src/linux-4.12.8-gentoo/.config | grep F2FS
CONFIG_F2FS_FS=y
CONFIG_F2FS_STAT_FS=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_XATTR=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_F2FS_FS_SECURITY=y
CONFIG_F2FS_CHECK_FS=y
# CONFIG_F2FS_FS_ENCRYPTION is not set
# CONFIG_F2FS_FAULT_INJECTION is not set
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

n05ph3r42 wrote:
Hi. Everything workls like a charm, since 2k14. Using grub, parted and f2fs-tools.
Here is my config.
Thank you, I will give it a try. As I see to it the differences, if any, are marginal. So I am setting up my system from scratch - maybe something has been done wrong - and use a slightly different partition scheme with both /boot and esp on a FAT32 formated partition.

Will report back hopefully tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back again, it takes a lot of time to test this carefulley since it requires repeated installations of the entire system.

Thanks to the replies of n05ph3r42 and Skinjob2707 I suspected there is no magical treatment of grub required. I can confirm this now. I did two scenarios:

1.) ESP (efi system partition) and the /boot partion together on a single FAT32 partition which is mounted to /boot
2.) /boot as ext2 partition, mounted to /boot. ESP as FAT32 partition mounted to /boot/efi

Both installations worked without any particular modification to grub or anything else. Previously I installed the system onto the hard drive attached through usb to another Gentoo run system. This time I attached the hard drive to the internal SATA. Maybe the cause ....

The only annoying thing is a message cascade during boot (each line starting with "Info:"), which delays the boot proces for several seconds. These two guys here are having the same trouble, it does not seems to have any impact on the functionality though.

Do you, n05ph3r42 and Skinjob2707, see the same at startup?
Code:
* Checking local filesystems ...
Info: Fix the reported corruption.
Info: Mounted device!
Info: Check FS only due to RO
Info: sector size = 512
Info: total sectors = 209715200 (102400 MB) # this corresponds to my root partition
Info: MKFS version
  "Linux version 4.12.5 (root@Gentoo) (gcc version 5.4..0 ...."
Info: FSCK version
  from "Linux version 4.12.5-gentoo  (root@archiso) (gcc version 5.4.0 (Gentoo .... # archiso was the starting OS on the thumb drive
    to "Linux version 4.12.5-gentoo  (root@archiso) (gcc version 5.4.0 (Gentoo ....
Info: superblock features = 0 :
...... # and so on for another 4 lines


EDIT: for those who stumble across this :wink: : the a.m. delay at boot is the normal file system check, which seem to take much longer than on a ext4 file system. I turned it off by setting the last number in the correponding line for the root drive in my fstab to zero. Boot up is pretty fast, so I will stick to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As my grub and initramfs is on a SD card, I'm looking for F2FS as well. Does grub support it today? Last thing I read about it, that it was planned for 2.02, which we have today:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-For-GRUB2
Concerning this it has not arrived yet:
Code:
xzgrep -i f2fs /usr/share/doc/grub-2.02/NEWS.xz

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