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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Grsecurity License to be Tested for GPLv2 Violation Reply with quote

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/03/linux_kernel_grsecurity_sues_bruce_perens_for_defamation/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that was a stupid move. Clearly they are violating the GPL if they're not allowing the patches to be distributed.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their approach seems reminiscent of The SCO Group's behavior.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Their approach seems reminiscent of The SCO Group's behavior.


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aidanjt wrote:
Well that was a stupid move. Clearly they are violating the GPL if they're not allowing the patches to be distributed.


Absolutely.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dis gonna be good.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dis gonna be good.
I'm hoping for quick.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dis gonna be good.
Bruce Perens wants to anti-SLAPP Grsecurity's Brad Spengler with $670,000 in legal bills
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If the award is granted by San Francisco magistrate judge Laurel Beeler, it could be ruinous for Spengler and his company. According to GovTribe, a site that tracks government contractors, Open Source Security has annual revenue of $350,000 and a single employee.

Spengler may also be personally liable for costs, if approved by the court, because both he and his company are listed as plaintiffs in the case.


And (referenced post from Aug 2017):
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In a LWN.net post arising from The Register's initial coverage of the case last August, an individual posting under the name "rahvin" wrote, "Grsecurity is going to deeply regret filing this. Bruce has a very high caliber law firm on his side, this type of firm can bill a million dollars in a week. And when you win an anti-SLAPP motion you are practically guaranteed to win legal fees, particularly in California where the suit was filed. I'm not aware of a single anti-SLAPP motion that was won in Cali that didn't result in an award of legal fees."

Judge Beeler in a previous court filing indicated that she believed the anti-SLAPP statute would have to be considered. "[T]he court has difficulty seeing how the present claims can elude California’s anti-SLAPP statute," she said.


And grsec's lesser paid lawyer responds:
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Open Source Security's legal counsel, said the hours spent and fees claimed "are ridiculous and outrageous from any reasonable standard. We will be addressing this in detail in our responsive filing and have full confidence that the Court will determine a fair and reasonable award."


I'd also like to see the GPL violation challenged.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
Well that was a stupid move. Clearly they are violating the GPL if they're not allowing the patches to be distributed.


afaik he does allow licensees to have a copy of the code... but he revokes your license if you share the code publicly. no idea how gpl compliant that is, ianal. :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aidanjt wrote:
Well that was a stupid move. Clearly they are violating the GPL if they're not allowing the patches to be distributed.


afaik he does allow licensees to have a copy of the code... but he revokes your license if you share the code publicly. no idea how gpl compliant that is, ianal. :lol:

ianal either but GPL2 isn't difficult to parse:
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2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.

I appreciate that Linus doesn't make what they're trying to do easy, and that an effort like this is demanding work and that people gotta eat, but a license is a license and Linux is Linux. If you need the paycheck you need to work on something else.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Naib wrote:
dis gonna be good.
Bruce Perens wants to anti-SLAPP Grsecurity's Brad Spengler with $670,000 in legal bills
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If the award is granted by San Francisco magistrate judge Laurel Beeler, it could be ruinous for Spengler and his company. According to GovTribe, a site that tracks government contractors, Open Source Security has annual revenue of $350,000 and a single employee.

Spengler may also be personally liable for costs, if approved by the court, because both he and his company are listed as plaintiffs in the case.

I'm personally hoping it gets dragged out as long as possible. Spengler's lawyer must have told him very loudly to STFU, because LWN comment sections in any security-related article suddenly started being bearable around late 2017 (though his sycophants have started slowly crawling out of the woodwork in the meantime).
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