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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:09 am    Post subject: Trump: Mueller? Mueller? Reply with quote

Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
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John Dowd, one of Trump’s lawyers, said on Thursday that he was unaware of the inquiry into Trump’s businesses by the two-months-old investigation and considered it beyond the scope of what Special Counsel Robert Mueller should be examining.

“Those transactions are in my view well beyond the mandate of the Special counsel; are unrelated to the election of 2016 or any alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and most importantly, are well beyond any Statute of Limitation imposed by the United States Code,” he wrote in an email.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Trump: Mueller? Mueller? Reply with quote

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Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
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John Dowd, one of Trump’s lawyers, said on Thursday that he was unaware of the inquiry into Trump’s businesses by the two-months-old investigation and considered it beyond the scope of what Special Counsel Robert Mueller should be examining.

“Those transactions are in my view well beyond the mandate of the Special counsel; are unrelated to the election of 2016 or any alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and most importantly, are well beyond any Statute of Limitation imposed by the United States Code,” he wrote in an email.



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Unless, of course, its all relevant.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump lawyers trying to find dirt on investigation team to build a case to get some firings

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-russia-investigation.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure I did. Opt-in. Who wouldn't buy that for a $1?
How is that covering everyone all of the time? It's still some of the people, some of the time

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It's not just affording it, it's affording it at the right time. When it is taken out of your pay there is no budgeting for it or procrastinating. There are also things like what if you pay for it monthly and you get paid weekly?

Sounds like hand waving to me. I thought this was cheap, only $1?
Hand waving? I don't get the analogy. Hand waving is trying to get attention.

The point of it being mandatory and it being $X amount is

a) that there is a definitive amount for a budget with minimal fluctuation
b) the entire population, rich, poor, black, white, is covered with no exceptions and no questions.

If opt-in can't do the above then it is inferior and should not be used. I reiterate: You have to guarantee that 100% of people will be covered 100% of the time and that is impossible in opt-in/out systems
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean Spicer Resigns as White House Press Secretary
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Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned on Friday morning, telling President Trump he vehemently disagreed with the appointment of the New York financier Anthony Scaramucci as communications director.

Mr. Trump offered Mr. Scaramucci the job at 10 a.m. The president requested that Mr. Spicer stay on, but Mr. Spicer told Mr. Trump that he believed the appointment was a major mistake, according to person with direct knowledge of the exchange.

I think the rats are jumping ship
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The $1 dollar plan you referenced is either viable or its a sham. If it is viable at $1, it's viable at $10 or whatever with opt-in. The point is, at such a low cost, almost everyone would opt-in. Id vote to support that option.


Spicer was never the right person for the job. No idea who the new guy is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The $1 dollar plan you referenced is either viable or its a sham. If it is viable at $1, it's viable at $10 or whatever with opt-in. The point is, at such a low cost, almost everyone would opt-in. Id vote to support that option.
That is a much better reply. Why didn't you say that before?

You're wrong on the main premise, the two options aren't "viable" and "sham". It's viable from $0.01 to $100 as long as it's planned properly. But to plan it properly you can't have a fluctuating budget.

I think I get where you are missing the point though. This isn't you paying for your care and Dave down the road paying for his. This is everyone putting into the pot and everyone taking what they need. Naturally some disabled people will take more and some abled people will take less but it all averages out in the end.

Thanks to Obama you now have a workforce of 153 million. That is $153 million a day ($55 billion a year) that could make the US healthcare system the best in the world. The single-payer bargaining for medication alone would bring $30-a-month medicines down to $2
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We passed a unilateral healthcare bill that was unpopular in the first place and it has been in effect for a few years Meanwhile there is a shortage of Sodium Bicarbonate, medical grade baking soda, and we've been experiencing bizarre shortages for the last few years. Normal Saline, (that is distilled water and table salt). Epinephrine (the adrenaline shot, if you get your medical info from Tarantino)

Drugs that were competitively proceed are now orders of magnitude more expensive. Should I blame Republicans?

The best thing I am seeing is the ubiquitous availability of narcan to combat opiates. The opiate crisis can be linked to the rise in prescriptions of addictive pain medications. So did the universal mandate and coverage for everyone bring about an epidemic of opiate use in populations who are at higher risk for self destructive behaviors?

The invisible hand was doing fine for medicine until Roosevelt had to fuck it up in the new deal.

Now the bureaucracy expands to meet the expanding needs of the bureaucracy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should I blame Republicans?
No, blame the companies that give kickbacks to doctors and lobbying
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Spicer was never the right person for the job. No idea who the new guy is.


Anthony Scaramucci is the guy who CNN libeled in one of their fake news pieces that they had to retract, and fire everyone involved because he was going to sue the pants off of them. ;)

A great choice, as Scaramucci is an eloquent and effective communicator.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The flow of illegal immigrants has slowed to a trickle, and now the economy is refocusing on proper growth :

Boom: Mining +21.6% in Q1; Construction +5.6%; Manufacturing +4.7%; Bust: Finance and Insurance -2.1%
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The flow of illegal immigrants has slowed to a trickle, and now the economy is refocusing on proper growth :

Boom: Mining +21.6% in Q1; Construction +5.6%; Manufacturing +4.7%; Bust: Finance and Insurance -2.1%
is that since Obama got 10 million more people into work? :D
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should I blame Republicans?
No, blame the companies that give kickbacks to doctors and lobbying


The kickbacks to doctors isn't a problem related to pharmaceutical shortages. We can solve the lobby problem by term limits to Congress. That makes lobbying that more expensive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations

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16 regs removed for every new rule introduced


#MAGA
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should I blame Republicans?
No, blame the companies that give kickbacks to doctors and lobbying


The kickbacks to doctors isn't a problem related to pharmaceutical shortages. We can solve the lobby problem by term limits to Congress. That makes lobbying that more expensive.
Prescribing too much isn't related to pharmaceutical shortages?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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16 regs removed for every new rule introduced


#MAGA
protesting too much again. It's a sinking ship dude. The way to MAGA is to get rid and start over. Give Rand Paul a go at the job, Trump the president is dead
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is a much better reply. Why didn't you say that before?
I mostly did, you just kept sidestepping the very clear and basic point and rambling on about your unicorn.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations

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16 regs removed for every new rule introduced


#MAGA
protesting too much again.


Yes, you definitely are. Each regulation is a limitation of liberty. Getting rid of those is a net positive.
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Should I blame Republicans?
No, blame the companies that give kickbacks to doctors and lobbying


The kickbacks to doctors isn't a problem related to pharmaceutical shortages. We can solve the lobby problem by term limits to Congress. That makes lobbying that more expensive.
Prescribing too much isn't related to pharmaceutical shortages?


Are you suggesting that when a patient goes to a doctor with a problem, instead of prescribing the appropriate medication, the doctor should instead tell the patient to suck it up and deal with it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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#MAGA


EPA Decides Not To Ban A Pesticide, Despite Its Own Evidence Of Risk

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/03/29/521898976/will-the-epa-reject-a-pesticide-or-its-own-scientific-evidence

Pruitt decided this just after meeting with Dow chemicals CEO.

Hooray! No science! Less regulations!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't you be out herding sheep, or getting drunk, or doing whatever else all the Hobbits in Hobbiton do?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shouldn't you be out herding sheep, or getting drunk, or doing whatever else all the Hobbits in Hobbiton do?


Why do we have regulations?

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Verizon admits to throttling Netflix, says ‘network testing’ is to blame

http://bgr.com/2017/07/21/verizon-data-caps-throttling-netflix-statement/

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cokey wrote:
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Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations

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16 regs removed for every new rule introduced


#MAGA
protesting too much again.


Yes, you definitely are. Each regulation is a limitation of liberty. Getting rid of those is a net positive.


Getting rid of regulations is driven only by ideology.

Donald Trump overturns law preventing companies dumping coal mining debris in streams and rivers

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-coal-rivers-regulation-scrapped-law-a7584916.html

Thank god Trump is supporting to coal industry! Everyone loves coal!

Investors Prefer Wind & Solar Because They’re Cheaper Than Coal

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/solar-and-wind-power-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-for-the-first-time-a7509251.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is a much better reply. Why didn't you say that before?
I mostly did, you just kept sidestepping the very clear and basic point and rambling on about your unicorn.
And you selectively respond because you have no decent argument. Discussion over, I win
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
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Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations

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16 regs removed for every new rule introduced


#MAGA
protesting too much again.


Yes, you definitely are. Each regulation is a limitation of liberty. Getting rid of those is a net positive.
So no regulation is better? How would that work? Obviously it's unworkable otherwise people would be asking for it and would have been for decades/centuries
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