Problems with Xorg (no keyboard or mouse).Libinput or evdev?

[Jack Krauser]

Hi people. It's been a long time ago since my last visit here. There are many change around (eg. Handbook)...

Anyway, I start with my problem:
I've been instaling Gentoo in my 64 bits PC Desktop; I'm using a Nvidia GeForce GTX 650

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lspci | grep NVIDIA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] (rev a1)

I installed gentoo and I followed every step until Handbook's end. I saw how gentoo start. After that, I decided to: Install Xorg and the desktop environment that I want.

I started with the Gentoo guide How to install Xorg but I'm using a Nvidia card, I also read how to prepare my system with the Nvidia's guide

In the Xorg's guide says:

By default, Xorg uses evdev, a generic input driver. You'll need to activate support for evdev

Continuing with the guide say:

make.defaults has Libinput as the default input device driver.

I noticed I can choose between "libinput" or "evdev"

The second variable is INPUT_DEVICES and is used to determine which drivers are to be built for input devices. In most cases setting it to libinput or evdev should work just fine

I was looking for information about libinput in this link because I've never heard of that and it says:

Configuration
Xorg

By default, when libinput is the only available input driver for Xorg, no additional configuration is needed. Simply (re)start the graphical environment for the changes to take effect.

As far as I understand, I have not to do any extra configuration so I continued with the process. I've compiled the kernel and drivers and I've installed everything that I suppose to install.

I created the necessary files according the Gentoo Nvidia' s guide:

The X Server

Once the appropriate drivers are installed, configure the X server to use the nvidia driver instead of the default nv driver.

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cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nvidia.conf
Section "Device"
   Identifier  "nvidia"
   Driver      "nvidia"
EndSection

Now, according to Xorg's guide, says:

NVidia users

For NVidia users it might be beneficial to run nvidia-xconfig in order to generate a working xorg.conf file for the selected graphics card. Without this step the xorg.conf file will need to be created manually as described below.

It says that I have to run a command

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nvidia-xconfig

It created a xorg.conf file and after that I run the

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startx

command

Before this step, everything worked fine: I saw some windows because I installed xterm but my problem started from here:

I neither have nor a keyboard or mouse when I start X server with startx command. However, if I start my system without xserver they work very good. I've been reading and looking for information for 5 days but I can't any solution. My Xorg log is in this link

My attention is on this part:

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[ 30979.093] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[ 30979.093] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[ 30979.093] (WW) Disabling Mouse0

It's like there is something wrong happened but I don't understand why. If I delete the "xorg.conf" file I got the same problem: nor keyboard or mouse work but I see some windows (from xterm). The xorg log is in this link. As you see, there's not any reference to load keyboard o mouse modules.

And that's it, I don't know how to proceed and I'd like to have my system ready as far as possible.

Here is my "make.conf"

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# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing.
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the
# profile used for building.

USE_MULTIMEDIA="a52 aac aalib alsa ao audiofile cdda cddb cdr css dv dvb dvd dvdr encode ffmpeg flac gif gpm gstreamer jack joystick jpeg jpeg2k lame libav matroska mms mng mp3 mp4 mpeg mplayer musepack nas ogg osc oss png pulseaudio quicktime sound theora v4l vcd videos vorbis xine xv xvmc tiff gif xvid png win32codecs opengl"
USE_HARD="mmx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3"
USE_NET="ssh samba"
USE_ENTORNO="kde X gnome" 

USE_GENERAL="xvmc"

USE="bindist acpi gtk ${USE_HARD} ${USE_NET} ${USE_MULTIMEDIA} ${USE_ENTORNO} ${USE_GENERAL}"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
DISTDIR="${PORTDIR}/distfiles"
PKGDIR="${PORTDIR}/packages"

MAKEOPTS="-j9"

VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
INPUT_DEVICES="libinput"

GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.c3sl.ufpr.br/ ftp://gentoo.c3sl.ufpr.br/gentoo/ http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/gentoo/"

http://codepad.org/P3FtAdtd

Also, this is the xorg file that the nvidia-xconfig wrote:

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# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 381.22  (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-02)  Thu May  4 01:29:00 PDT 2017

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

This is my kernel:

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eselect kernel list
Available kernel symlink targets:
  [1]   linux-4.9.16-gentoo *

I hope you can help guys. If you need more information, please, ask me and I give you. Thank you very much

PD: I decided to use libinput instead of evdev because the libinput guide says:

It is a drop-in replacement for the slowly deprecating evdev and synaptics input drivers

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[tuggbuss]

Hi people. It's been a long time ago since my last visit here. There are many change around (eg. Handbook)...

...

[1] linux-4.9.16-gentoo *[/code]

I hope you can help guys. If you need more information, please, ask me and I give you. Thank you very much

PD: I decided to use libinput instead of evdev because the libinput guide says:

It is a drop-in replacement for the slowly deprecating evdev and synaptics input drivers

Why dont state both?

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INPUT_DEVICES="libinput evdev"

Then

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emerge --ask --changed-use --deep @world

[eccerr0r]

It's normal for Xorg to disable xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard, as now autodetect (which can only be disabled by a specific command in xorg.conf) will force these legacy drivers to disabled.

If the suggestion to re-emerge the xf86-input-libinput driver doesn't work, take a look at your Xorg.0.log again, look for any other errors pertaining to input devices. You may want to pastebin the whole Xorg.0.log file somewhere so people can take a look at it.

You will need libinput/evdev support enabled in your kernel, without kernel support, these autodetect routines will not work.

[tuggbuss]

It's normal for Xorg to disable xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard, as now autodetect (which can only be disabled by a specific command in xorg.conf) will force these legacy drivers to disabled.

If the suggestion to re-emerge the xf86-input-libinput driver doesn't work, take a look at your Xorg.0.log again, look for any other errors pertaining to input devices. You may want to pastebin the whole Xorg.0.log file somewhere so people can take a look at it.

You will need libinput/evdev support enabled in your kernel, without kernel support, these autodetect routines will not work.

Yes, of course. I forgot to mention this. You are absolutley right. (kind of took it for granted)

[Jack Krauser]

Thanks for your anwers

It's normal for Xorg to disable xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard, as now autodetect (which can only be disabled by a specific command in xorg.conf) will force these legacy drivers to disabled.

If the suggestion to re-emerge the xf86-input-libinput driver doesn't work, take a look at your Xorg.0.log again, look for any other errors pertaining to input devices. You may want to pastebin the whole Xorg.0.log file somewhere so people can take a look at it.

You will need libinput/evdev support enabled in your kernel, without kernel support, these autodetect routines will not work.

I put the log from Xorg.0.log in my comment... Here is again --> http://codepad.org/FPNb5lGV

PD:

- I re-emerge "xf86-input-libinput" but nothing happens.
- I activated the evdev support in kernel but libinput doesn't exist:

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grep -i evdev /usr/src/linux/.config

CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y

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grep -i libinput /usr/src/linux/.config

(There's not answer here)

[krinn]

Your xorg log show it doesn't even try to load the module, are you sure the module exist?
I think xorg-server need udev useflag to enable it.
Check also the "minimal" useflag, i think xorg minimal is well, minimal

[Jack Krauser]

Your xorg log show it doesn't even try to load the module, are you sure the module exist?
I think xorg-server need udev useflag to enable it.

I'm so sorry krinn, my mistake. I have two differents logs.

The first one is WITH the xorg.conf file --> http://codepad.org/tp8Yt2ti

The second one is WITHOUT xorg.conf file --> http://codepad.org/FPNb5lGV

About your next suggestion:

Check also the "minimal" useflag, i think xorg minimal is well, minimal

This is what I have:

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These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  ... done!
[ebuild   R    ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.3:0/1.19.3::gentoo  USE="glamor ipv6 suid udev xorg -debug -dmx -doc -kdrive (-libressl) -minimal (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -tslib -unwind -wayland -xephyr -xnest -xvfb" 0 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

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I'm not using the minimal flag and, in the guide, it hasn't never been mentioned. Do you think I have to use it?

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[eccerr0r]

Is udev updated (what version?) and running?

[Jack Krauser]

Is udev updated (what version?) and running?

This is all available version of udev:

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Keywords for virtual/udev:
       |                                 |   u   |  
       | a a         p s   a     n r     |   n   |  
       | l m   h i   p p   r m m i i s   | e u s | r
       | p d a p a p c a x m i 6 o s 3   | a s l | e
       | h 6 r p 6 p 6 r 8 6 p 8 s c 9 s | p e o | p
       | a 4 m a 4 c 4 c 6 4 s k 2 v 0 h | i d t | o
-------+---------------------------------+-------+-------
   215 | + + + + + + + + + + ~ + o o + + | 5 o 0 | gentoo
[I]217 | + + + + + + + + + ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | 5 o   | gentoo

I'm using this version

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These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  .... done!
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/udev-217::gentoo  USE="-systemd" 0 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

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[Jaglover]

Possibly the new kernel was not properly installed.

[josephg]

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$ lsmod | grep evdev

i used libinput for a while, but have gone back to evdev. if you have problems, i suggest you stick with evdev. if you do want libinput, see this: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/libinput

[Jack Krauser]

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$ lsmod | grep evdev

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Show me no answers. I do not know what can I do

i used libinput for a while, but have gone back to evdev. if you have problems, i suggest you stick with evdev. if you do want libinput, see this: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/libinput

That was my first option and that's why I tried to use libinput instead of evdev

Please, I need help

[eccerr0r]

Go with Jag's suggestion and make sure you're running the kernel that you think you're running

$ uname -a

Pastebin your kernel's .config ... to double check.

Are you using sys-fs/udev or sys-fs/eudev, and which version are you using?
Also are all your etc-update or dispatch-conf up to date?

What is in your

$ ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/

directory?

[josephg]

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Show me no answers. I do not know what can I do

ok, i think we might have identified your problem. look at your kernel config, and rebuild your kernel.

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$ zgrep EVDEV /proc/config.gz

also, answer eccerr0r.

[Jack Krauser]

Go with Jag's suggestion and make sure you're running the kernel that you think you're running

$ uname -a

It's a new fresh Gentoo installation and I only have 1 kernel:

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Available kernel symlink targets:
  [1]   linux-4.9.16-gentoo *

And there it is:

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Linux GENTOO-LINUX-PC 4.9.16-gentoo #1 SMP Fri Jun 2 05:03:36 -05 2017 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Pastebin your kernel's .config ... to double check.

Mi kernel configuration is in this link

Are you using sys-fs/udev or sys-fs/eudev, and which version are you using?

The result for emerge is in this link

I'm using sys-fs/eudev-3.1.5::gentoo

Also are all your etc-update or dispatch-conf up to date?

I've synchronized portage tree 5 days ago with emerge --sync:

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Portage 2.3.5

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Portage 2.3.5 (python 3.4.5-final-0, default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop, gcc-5.4.0, glibc-2.23-r3, 4.9.16-gentoo x86_64)

What is in your

$ ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/

directory?

There's 2 files in there

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total 136
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61152 jun  6 23:26 evdev_drv.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77752 jun  6 16:05 libinput_drv.so

[Jaglover]

On June 6th you wrote you changed your kernel configuration.

Linux GENTOO-LINUX-PC 4.9.16-gentoo #1 SMP Fri Jun 2 05:03:36 -05 2017

But you are not running the kernel from June 6th.

[Jack Krauser]

On June 6th you wrote you changed your kernel configuration.

Linux GENTOO-LINUX-PC 4.9.16-gentoo #1 SMP Fri Jun 2 05:03:36 -05 2017

But you are not running the kernel from June 6th.

I did not any change on my kernel configuration, I just openned it in order to review if I did a mistake and nothing more.
Some minutes ago, I did some changes at my kernel configuration and here is again:

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Linux GENTOO-LINUX-PC 4.9.16-gentoo #2 SMP Wed Jun 7 18:35:13 -05 2017 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61152 jun  7 19:28 evdev_drv.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77752 jun  6 16:05 libinput_drv.so

Is that ok?

PD: Just in case, this is my new kernel config file

[eccerr0r]

Actually about etc-update/dispatch-conf, do they report any outdated config files that need to be updated, especially ones related to eudev?

These tools try to help you figure out if you have any outdated config files.

Just run

# etc-update

and see if there's any files there that it reports to be out of date.

I'm trying to follow down this ...

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[ 31709.825] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/opengl/nvidia,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
[ 31709.825] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.

I sure hope we don't have to go to disabling AutoAddDevices.

[Jack Krauser]

Actually about etc-update/dispatch-conf, do they report any outdated config files that need to be updated, especially ones related to eudev?

These tools try to help you figure out if you have any outdated config files.

Just run

# etc-update

and see if there's any files there that it reports to be out of date.

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Scanning Configuration files...
Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :)

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There's no answer

I'm trying to follow down this ...

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[ 31709.825] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/opengl/nvidia,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
[ 31709.825] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.

I sure hope we don't have to go to disabling AutoAddDevices.

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[ 31709.825] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.

Is something wrong with udev maybe?

[eccerr0r]

I'm at a loss at the differences between udev and eudev... I would imagine they should have kept the two in sync meaning one would work the same as the other...

[papu]

in my system is working libinput , i just have changed from evdev, it seems works right now

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~ $ la /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/
total 84
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 8 jun 17:44 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 8 jun 17:43 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77752 6 jun 19:58 libinput_drv.so

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~ $ qlist -Iv xf86-
x11-drivers/xf86-input-libinput-0.25.1
x11-drivers/xf86-video-amdgpu-1.3.0
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-7.9.0

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~ $ grep -e "Using input driver 'libinput'" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    10.113] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'Power Button'
[    10.187] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'Sleep Button'
[    10.227] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'VF0410 Live! Cam Video IM Pro'
[    10.267] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'CM Storm Quickfire TKL 6keys'
[    18.094] (II) Using input driver 'libinput' for 'Ruling Technologies Sdn. Bhd. SteelSeries Gaming Device'

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[josephg]

ok let me ask again

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$ zgrep EVDEV /proc/config.gz

because i suspect the kernel config you attach is probably not the kernel you're running

[Jack Krauser]

Hi folks!. I'm sorry because I've lost for some days. I was sick for some days but, I got some good news:

¡I found the solution to this problem!

This problem started with the first installation. When you have to download the stage3 file in the gentoo's repo, I downloaded this one --> current-stage3-amd64-systemd. I choosen it because I wanted Gnome on my system and Gnome uses systemd (I know Gnome can be built without systemd but I want systemd). After downloaded the file I proceeded with the installation and I got the problem that we are discussing here. Before I got sick I decided to install again Gentoo but just formatting all partitions that I decided to have but, this time, downloading this stage3 --> stage3-amd64-20170525.tar.bz2. When it finished I could installing the other apps and DM and all stuff and now I'm writing to you from here

Thank you very much for your patient and your helpful. I hope you can help me in another situation or problem. I'll see you later

[eccerr0r]

Uh wow... you managed to install eudev on a systemd stage3? I suppose that would cause some (fixable) mess...
Oh well, at least you got it working now though it should be possible to switch between them.