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What AM4 motherboard do you use. Actually use, not want.
Asus
40%
 40%  [ 48 ]
MSI
21%
 21%  [ 25 ]
Gigabyte
21%
 21%  [ 25 ]
Asrock
16%
 16%  [ 20 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
MSI ~ # equery w lm_sensors
/var/lib/layman/oldgentoo/sys-apps/lm_sensors/lm_sensors-3.5.0.ebuild
MSI ~ # grep nct /etc/conf.d/modules
modules+=" fam15h_power nct6775 "
MSI ~ # lsmod |grep nct
nct6775                45056  0
hwmon_vid              16384  1 nct6775
hwmon                  16384  3 nct6775,radeon,fam15h_power
MSI ~ # equery w lm_sensors
/var/lib/layman/oldgentoo/sys-apps/lm_sensors/lm_sensors-3.5.0.ebuild
Code:
MSI ~ # sensors -f
radeon-pci-1c00
Adapter: PCI adapter
RS230:       +104.0°F  (crit = +248.0°F, hyst = +194.0°F)

nct6795-isa-0a20
Adapter: ISA adapter
Vcore:                  +0.61 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:                    +1.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
AVCC:                   +3.42 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+3.3V:                  +3.34 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
in4:                    +1.02 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in5:                    +0.15 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in6:                    +0.92 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
3VSB:                   +3.41 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
Vbat:                   +3.36 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.63 V)
in9:                    +1.84 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in10:                   +0.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
in11:                   +1.05 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in12:                   +0.91 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in13:                   +0.67 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in14:                   +1.52 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
fan1:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:                  3117 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan3:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan5:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan6:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
SYSTIN:                 +91.4°F  (high = +32.0°F, hyst = +32.0°F)  ALARM  sensor                                                                                                               = CPU diode
CPUTIN:                 +82.4°F  (high = +239.0°F, hyst = +194.0°F)  sensor = th                                                                                                              ermistor
AUXTIN0:                +86.9°F  (high = +239.0°F, hyst = +194.0°F)  sensor = th                                                                                                              ermistor
AUXTIN1:               -198.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +73.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +30.2°F    sensor = thermistor
SMBUSMASTER 0:          +98.6°F
PCH_CHIP_CPU_MAX_TEMP:  +32.0°F
PCH_CHIP_TEMP:          +32.0°F
PCH_CPU_TEMP:           +32.0°F
intrusion0:            ALARM
intrusion1:            ALARM
beep_enable:           disabled
On some webpage it said SMBUSMASTER0 was the value for CPU tem[. That seems to be correct. Like you I use openrc-0.17 and maintain a lot in a local repo called "oldgentoo". BTW, the chip is obviously not frozen.
Re secrecy by MSI: WTF? You can download free "speccy" for Windows and read all these these fine, so they always find out from somewhere. Perhaps they read the BIOS? I'd sure like to know how to do that, but it seems like a massive disassembly project. Come on MSI, Gigabyte et al. Just release a Linux binary already. It's not the nuclear launch codes.

Video card is running much cooler than with the Pinnacle Ridge. All that air moving in the case must help it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With -j17 I finally hit 4.03Mhz when compiling gcc. Temp topped out at 160 F
Not much overall change, however(from -j8 )
Code:
real   103m20.654s
user   268m32.000s
sys   32m2.600s
I'm pleased with the halving of build time compared to the Athlon X4. But I also, wish that it would idle slower.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grep "CPU_[FI]" /usr/src/linux/.config |grep -v "^#"

What does the above return, Tony

Edit to add: this is what's turned on, on my system
CONFIG_ACPI_CPU_FREQ_PSS=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ATTR_SET=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_COMMON=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE_GOV_LADDER=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE_GOV_MENU=y
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just changed from ondemand to schedutil . Meh!
I could use a little desktop or panel app to switch manually between powersave and performance.
Code:
 # grep "CPU_[FI]" /usr/src/linux/.config |grep -v "^#"
CONFIG_X86_MINIMUM_CPU_FAMILY=64
CONFIG_ACPI_CPU_FREQ_PSS=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ATTR_SET=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_COMMON=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_SCHEDUTIL=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE_GOV_LADDER=y
CONFIG_CPU_IDLE_GOV_MENU=y
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seem to work until I can write a little Dialog Box with radio buttons.

/usr/local/sbin/gofast
Code:
#!/bin/bash
for n in {0..15}
do
   echo "performance"> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu${n}/cpufreq/scaling_governor
done

/usr/local/goslow
Code:
#!/bin/bash
for n in {0..15}
do
   echo "powersave"> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu${n}/cpufreq/scaling_governor
done
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World update completed
Code:
real   512m36.678s
user   1990m23.876s
sys   160m17.288s

Disappointing but still can do an overnight build
Power drawn from Schneider APC during "gofast" 212W. During "goslow" 72 watts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

added acpi_enforce_resources=lax to my kernel options...

3700x overclocked to 3800 MHz base with stock cooler (wraith tower fan), indoor ambient air temperature is 74 degrees F. ondemand governor used.

I'm still not getting direct CPU temps from k10temp, but the X570-Pro sensors are now working

at idle:

Code:

# sensors -f
nct6798-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0:                    +0.54 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:                    +0.99 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in2:                    +3.34 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in3:                    +3.26 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in4:                    +1.02 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in5:                    +0.78 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in6:                    +0.98 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in7:                    +3.34 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in8:                    +3.25 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in9:                    +0.89 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in10:                   +0.38 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in11:                   +0.54 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in12:                   +1.02 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in13:                   +0.98 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in14:                   +1.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
fan1:                   830 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:                  1508 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan3:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan5:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan6:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan7:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                 +99.5°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +71.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor
PCH_CHIP_CPU_MAX_TEMP:  +32.0°F 
PCH_CHIP_TEMP:          +32.0°F 
PCH_CPU_TEMP:           +32.0°F 
PCH_MCH_TEMP:           +32.0°F 
intrusion0:            ALARM
intrusion1:            ALARM
beep_enable:           disabled


compiling libreoffice with 16 threads running
Code:

10 minutes:
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                +117.5°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +69.8°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor

15 minutes:
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                +119.3°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +69.8°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor

20 minutes:
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                +120.2°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +69.8°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor

25 minutes:
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                +120.2°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +69.8°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor

30 minutes:
SYSTIN:                +100.4°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                +121.1°F  (high = +176.0°F, hyst = +167.0°F)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +80.6°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               +100.4°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +69.8°F    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +78.8°F    sensor = thermistor


merge time: 32 minutes and 53 seconds.

UPS load showed approximately 243 watts during compiling, including all peripherals (u2412m monitor, RT-N56U router, SB6141 cable modem)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

243w probably equivalent to my 212W because my router and cable modem are remote. I wouldn't be surprised if they drew 30W from the wall. the wallwarts get HOT!.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
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This depends on AMD not closing that loophole in next AGESA update, so PCIe 4 on old chipsets can't be taken for granted.


Yup, fair warning.

This is now reality with the most recent AGESA update that is only starting rollout with mainboard manufacturers. So PCIe-4 is only for >=X570.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saellaven wrote:
added acpi_enforce_resources=lax to my kernel options...

3700x overclocked to 3800 MHz base with stock cooler (wraith tower fan), indoor ambient air temperature is 74 degrees F. ondemand governor used.

I'm still not getting direct CPU temps from k10temp, but the X570-Pro sensors are now working


Hows the cpu working in day to day usage? Any problems/concerns.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anon-E-moose wrote:
saellaven wrote:
added acpi_enforce_resources=lax to my kernel options...

3700x overclocked to 3800 MHz base with stock cooler (wraith tower fan), indoor ambient air temperature is 74 degrees F. ondemand governor used.

I'm still not getting direct CPU temps from k10temp, but the X570-Pro sensors are now working


Hows the cpu working in day to day usage? Any problems/concerns.


Everything is working great, save some sensors still not showing up (which is only a minor annoyance that I'm sure will get fixed as software is updated).

I've done heavy compiling, playing CPU intensive games, etc.

For all of the talk about the x570 chipset getting hot, even with 5 drives and a nvidia card (granted, only running at 2x speeds), it runs pretty cool.

I'm still using the pre-release BIOS that came with my mobo (0411, dated 6/15/19, which isn't even available on the asus download page - currently serving 1005), and I know some things have been tweaked with newer versions, I'm just waiting to make sure they actually are stable since my system has been very stable as is.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't voted in this, but I'm planning on getting a Gigabyte one in the future for several reasons:

1) this model I've found has no stupid LEDs (a rare occurrence)
2) I already have an AM2 one from them and it's lasted a decade with very few issues; everything on it works and the BIOS update routine doesn't have any obnoxious win32 dependencies.

I'll be sure to document every tiny thing wrong with with the firmware when I get it.
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I have Gigabyte DS3H with Ryzen 2700 and S2H with 1600, will test Gentoo soon on last one soon.
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I have a https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X570-P/ and it is working good so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a asus ROG STRIX B450-I GAMING with AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor and 16Gig ddr4
dmesg show this error:
ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.PCI0.GPP2.PTXH.RHUB.POT5._PLD due to previous error (AE_AML_UNINITIALIZED_ELEMENT) (20190703/psparse-529) seems usb related
the mobo is stable and no usb issues except for the message
    sys-devel/gcc: 33 minutes, 47 seconds
    net-libs/webkit-gtk: 28 minutes, 23 seconds

wifi seem only to connect with a speed of 6 Mb/s on the linux-5.3.16-gentoo kernel and on the 4.19.86 the speed is 300mb/s. not sure who is lying
on the 5.3.16 the dowload speed is higher then the 6mb/s but feels slower then on the 4.19.86 kernel
for the leds i use the Borealis Asus Aura Sync and a kernel patch for i2c_piix4

Code:
amdgpu-pci-0700
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:       +1.00 V 
fan1:         868 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 5200 RPM)
edge:         +58.0°C  (crit = +94.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1:       26.04 W  (cap = 110.00 W)

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tdie:         +40.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
Tctl:         +40.5°C 

asuswmisensors-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
CPU Core Voltage:         +1.27 V 
VPP MEM Voltage:          +2.52 V 
+12V Voltage:            +10.14 V 
+5V Voltage:              +4.96 V 
3VSB Voltage:             +3.33 V 
VBAT Voltage:             +3.23 V 
AVCC3 Voltage:            +3.33 V 
SB 1.05V Voltage:         +1.06 V 
CPU Core Voltage:         +1.29 V 
CPU SOC Voltage:          +0.82 V 
CPU Fan:                  753 RPM
Chassis Fan 1:           1800 RPM
AIO Pump:                   0 RPM
CPU OPT:                    0 RPM
CPU Temperature:          +40.0°C 
CPU Socket Temperature:   +36.0°C 
Motherboard Temperature:  +41.0°C 
Chipset Temperature:      +52.0°C 
Tsensor 1 Temperature:   +216.0°C 
CPU VRM Temperature:      +39.0°C 
CPU VRM Output Current:   +6.00 A

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro Wifi, 3900x, G.Skill TridentZ 3200mhz, Aorus Gen4 NVME, Crucial P1 NVME, Gigabyte RX 590.
So far everything is good. Had some quirks with VFIO, but they are good now with the newer firmware (F10 Confirmed).
One oddity, I dual boot for gaming, and it seems when I would switch back and forth, the NVME drives would change with identifier they used (nvme0/nvme1). Switched to partid, and everything is good.

Other than that, it rocks, and was a worthwhile upgrade from my i5-2400/Gigabyte board. Been running it since August '19.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Asrock X570 Taichi, 3950X and RX 5700. So far everything is good. :)

Code:
3950X ~ # genlop -t gcc
 * sys-devel/gcc

     Sat Dec 21 16:53:00 2019 >>> sys-devel/gcc-9.2.0-r2
       merge time: 13 minutes and 5 seconds.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very close to hitting the buy button, any objections to this list? https://geizhals.at/?cat=WL-1274063

In short - I like small systems, and the only compromise I am willing to make is µATX - where board availability is really meh:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
ASRock X570M Pro4
G.Skill Flare X black DIMM Kit 64GB, DDR4-3200
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 8G

I'd love to get the 3950X, but it is a 60% premium for 1/3 more cores.

Ant P. wrote:
I'm planning on getting a Gigabyte

I was negatively impressed with their BIOS support in the past, that is regarding how long they take care of their product with updates, but I can't say I have experience with ASRock in that regard. I have heard good things about them in the past though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
I'm very close to hitting the buy button, any objections to this list? https://geizhals.at/?cat=WL-1274063

In short - I like small systems, and the only compromise I am willing to make is µATX - where board availability is really meh:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
ASRock X570M Pro4
G.Skill Flare X black DIMM Kit 64GB, DDR4-3200
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 8G


I hope you have seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwr-o4HBHU&feature=youtu.be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jallee wrote:
asturm wrote:
I'm very close to hitting the buy button, any objections to this list? https://geizhals.at/?cat=WL-1274063

In short - I like small systems, and the only compromise I am willing to make is µATX - where board availability is really meh:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
ASRock X570M Pro4
G.Skill Flare X black DIMM Kit 64GB, DDR4-3200
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 8G


I hope you have seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwr-o4HBHU&feature=youtu.be.


Actually Hardcore Overclocking text description wrote:
TLDR: good enough for stock or overclocking upto a 3700X.
To add to that, he also mentions in the video that there aren't many options, upgrade to a better ATX or ITX. As well as at ~24:43 "if you're running a 6 core or 8 core CPU, this board is perfectly fine. Even if you're overclocking." He waffles around a bit after that regarding the cost with 6 or 8 cores. He eventually seems to settle on "fine with 8 cores (with overclocking) but not 12" (but seems to indicate 12 is OK without overclocking).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why so few choice for x570 mATX ? :? Is Asrock the only option for this chipset in mATX?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:
Ant P. wrote:
I'm planning on getting a Gigabyte

I was negatively impressed with their BIOS support in the past, that is regarding how long they take care of their product with updates, but I can't say I have experience with ASRock in that regard. I have heard good things about them in the past though.

On my old Gigabyte board (an AM2+) I updated the BIOS from stock to get an extra core unlocked. It was a bit scary (big red flashing "don't turn off the power", followed by the update doing a hard power cycle via the RTC without warning!) but at least it didn't require Microsoft crapware. After that, it's been mostly stable for 10 years. There's supposedly a redundant backup bios feature but I've never had to use it. I'm apparently missing newer updates too, but they only add support for faster RAM than I have installed.

I'm hoping to have to touch this machine as little as possible, just want a boring workstation that'll last as long as the previous one did. With any luck I'll have some hard data soon.

(My first Gentoo was on a PC with an ASRock board. I wasn't particularly impressed with it - no updates and lots of feature crippling since it was an Intel - but they've probably improved in the last 16 years...)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sdauth wrote:
Why so few choice for x570 mATX ? :? Is Asrock the only option for this chipset in mATX?

mATX seems to be dead unfortunately. I'm less concerned with the 'overclocking' aspects of the review, however I agree it is not good enough for the price. Another option would be to get a really good B450 mATX board for € 100,- less and a passive heatsink - but now I'm already back to the original plan of making a no-compromise mITX build.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asturm wrote:

mATX seems to be dead unfortunately.

Maybe it will change with X670 chipset ? I really hope because I don't want to change my case (fractal mini) to fit ATX. And miniITX is nice but I really need 2pcie x16/x8 + pcie express.
Or maybe like you said a good B450 mATX.

Jallee wrote:
I have a Asrock X570 Taichi, 3950X and RX 5700. So far everything is good. :)

Code:
3950X ~ # genlop -t gcc
 * sys-devel/gcc

     Sat Dec 21 16:53:00 2019 >>> sys-devel/gcc-9.2.0-r2
       merge time: 13 minutes and 5 seconds.


8O This is what I need to upgrade. :o
I wonder what it is like to build for arm (beaglebone) with qemu-binfmt on this beast.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are APU drivers stable on Linux ? With the Ryzen 3400G for example. Anyone using it ?
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